ImperialFighter said:
Some interesting ideas in your post there, but just to confirm a couple of things, in case you're unaware - adywan has already decided to remove the solitary AT-ST altogether for his version, as it isn't seen before or afterwards in the footage (although someone had the notion to 'blow it up' in the second shot it's seen in, which I quite liked, lol...)
...and he's also decided he'd rather remove the SE additional shots of Vader's shuttle flying towards the Executor (which I kinda like - apart from the wrong 'Executor' colouring - as they only appear before the brunt of the Falcon/TIE chase and don't really interfere with the pacing of it this point)...and is also removing the SE shots of Vader's shuttle landing in the 'Executor' bay, along with Vader disembarking afterwards (which are shots I despise, as those absolutely *do* destroy the overall pacing of the chase/score at this point), and Vader will simply be heard to say "Bring my shuttle!" once again.
While I quite liked the initial brief extra sfx of the shuttle/'Executor' (and music cue) in the SE, I personally never had a problem with originally just seeing Vader aboard the 'Executor' later on without them...and I personally never had a problem with not seeing how Vader got down to the 'Rebel Base' on Hoth either, to be honest...
...however, you've inspired me Ronster! - You've made me realise there *is* a potential, simpler way to show how Vader got down to the planet, which wouldn't really affect the pacing too much I reckon...but it would come earlier than what you've described in your post. So just for speculation's sake, I'll post the screenshots/details over the next couple of days for you when I find time. :)
Thanks for your reply Imperial Fighter.
I did not know about the exclusion of the AT-ST, and it was actually the reason I mentioned that it would help continuity to see it again, and would by it's design be more at the front line with the AT-AT sitting further back on the battle field. If it's not in then it's not in and can see why that decision was made as it probably helps continuity more to get rid of it all together.
I think the transition to the executor is a mess in the Special Edition and my thoughts on it are use "bring my Shuttle" and only use the shot of the lamda shuttle departing bespin and flying towards the executor probably inserted just after Luke drops onto the falcon. But if it is all going to be cut then so be it, I think it does help keep continuity though, and thats my take on it.
I am glad my posted Ideas inspired you... I would love to see any mock up image / video you could throw together to see if there *is* a way it can be done to bring Vader down to Hoth. Especially the omitted SE Docking bay scene with Vader walking down the ramp on a replaced hoth background / Shield generator in ruins. I would be Forever grateful :) and worth it just for fun!
As you can probably tell, my ideas do not want to ruin the pace but try to be crafty with it, without trying to do any new shots at all only to add subtle elements but I am really not in the know on this subject and what can and cannot be done and look good and not ruin things in the process. I look forward to seeing whatever you can come up with!
One more idea I have had as you proposed to perhaps show the shuttle earlier in the battle sequence there is an opportunity I spotted but it would be a new shot immediatley after luke crashes his snowspeeder [REF VID 3.01] as the music piece ends and would not affect pace at this point, and luke could just be unconscious almost a little cliff hanger, perhaps even pause at the last frame just a bit longer to make him look out cold. then Perhaps insert a flip shot from the begining of return of the Jedi with the Lamda shuttle and 2 ties fly towards the camera composited on a Hoth Matte? then cut back to Luke scrambling to free himself from the cockpit but also slow the first few frames and cue the music a bit later so it looks like he is just coming around to consciousness again.
Any way hope this extra input may inspire you furthur? Good Luck Imperial Fighter
just watched the new vid and it is really good although I think the sound of Vaders Light Sabre retracting needs to be more prenounced in the mix. the core looks so much better though.