Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 106

I'm game! :)

great to see this progressing along - I for one can't wait to burn a nice clean trilogy of Harmy's DE V2.0

I'm interested in checking this out as well! :)

If it's not to late, I would like to take a look as well.

Meesa bein' interested :-)

Also interested

Harmy I'll have a squiz at your latest effort.

Cheers

sign me up!

Well I'm watching it right now and there are a few color problems which are VERY notable.

The main problem are the "black" borders. The problem is that they're not BLACK :-) They change color from scene to scene.  Go to the scene where the stormtroopers invade the blockage runner and when the first one shoots. I expected the frame be white with black borders, instead of it it's pink with red/brown borders :-) And later the color of the borders changes with every scene change, for example every time you cut to the camera angle where the stormtroopers come through the heavy smoke, the borders are lightgrey etc.

Is it possible for you to work only with the "video area" and add the borders at the end ?

Harmy said:

P.S.: There's a little surprise near the end of the WP :-)

 

lol. At first I was like, "Wtf happened with the music?" Then I remembered you saying this. Haha.

Looks great at first pass, Harmy. I just jumped around and looked at some obvious fixes (i.e. - new binary sunset mask), and they looked great. I plan to set it against GOUT/Puggo if I get time to examine closely, but it looks awesome so far.

Job well done again, buddy.

-DT

pittrek said:

[...] The main problem are the "black" borders. The problem is that they're not BLACK :-) They change color from scene to scene.

[...]

Is it possible for you to work only with the "video area" and add the borders at the end ?

I've got to think that the whole video will be cropped/bordered at the end, but I don't know for sure how the process goes. But, yeah, it is quite noticeable as is. I just checked that scene and this popped out at 3:38:

I have also never before realised that you can see the camera crew in Vader's "eyes" :-) The detail level is incredible, I don't remember seeing that much detail (I have watched only the bonus discs of the BR release yet) .

The walls of Tantive 4 have a different colour every time you change the camera angle, but they were never really "correct" in any official release.

There are some audio problems with 3PO's lines - We seemed to be made to suffer ...

It's incredible to see that the "Look sir droids" stormtrooper has only 2 eyes :-)

There are many small colour problems, and I would saturate many of the scenes more, but overall I LOVE it :-)

Been watching and looks pretty good, but the first thing that stood out to me is thats its 25fps, everyone sounds like there on helium! Harmy will your final release be 720p 25fps? I would strongly advise against.

I think I remember him saying that 25fps was easiest to find error problems because the timecodes would be the same for viewer and himself.

Ok here comes my first feedback on the WP. I've only finished watching until the scene of R2 and C3PO on Tatooine begins, and I'll point out the stuff I noticed so far, be them correct or not.

Now I'm a bit too lazy to make thumb codes of all images so I'm posting a link to the gallery that was created on imageshack: http://imageshack.us/g/803/001wz.png/

Ok, first 2 shots show a color inconsistency, the picture looking more yellow in the second one, easy to see if comparing the floor, walls or 3PO.

3-4 show the same using another shot.

Shot 5-6 shows two frames after each other, where the image suddenly changes and gets darker in that scene.

7-10 shows some color and white-level changes in those shots. Look at the white wall of the hallway in the back for example, or the brightest parts of 3PO.

11-13 shows some changes between shots of Leia.
In 11 it looks balanced.
In 12 the black level is raised so black looks dark grey instead.
In 13 the black level is correct again, but the white level is lowered and gives the image an underexposed look.

In shot 14, is it just me or does Leia's lips look a bit brown-ish? I don't know what exact color they should be there, but either way, look at the guns in the background looking slightly "dark brown".

Compared to 15 where the guns look dark grey/black. Also in shot 15, look at the glove at the bottom left. The cyan shadows thing again, which happened to Han's boot in the Greedo scene earlier?

In shot 16 the shadows are dark blue instead.

In 17 the shadows have changed to a more neutral tone, and the skintones have also changed compared to 16.

Ok, that's it for now. We'll see if I'll find more in other scenes tomorrow.

EDIT: After comparing some shots to my render, it seems some of the differences between 7 and 8 was there in the render, and shot 13 was underexposed even there.

Hi Harmy,

Thank you for the chance to share in this.

Now I'm not as knowledgeable about colour correction as many are here, and my monitors are not perfectly adjusted, but I'll throw out a few observations anyway.

First a compliment: It mostly looks super nice and it's very pleasing to see the first shots of C3PO look so nicely golden instead of gold with green highlights.

There is one thing you did that I don't like and that is Princess Leia's skin tone looks too much beige or very light brown and her lips are brownish too. Instead I think her complexion should be a paler white with a redder blush on her cheeks and redder lips. I compared this to the 2004 DVD and you nicely got rid of the blue tint, but I do think the previous versions skin tone on Leia was better, even with the blue over it.

The sandcrawler cresting the ridge at 14:45, might be a bit bright.

Your establishing shot of the Lars homestead may be over bright, but since you had to rebuild it, it's probably as good as it gets.

I will leave it at that as I think others will be much more precise on the good and the bad.

By the way. Has anyone noticed the tiny glimpse of a crewman we get at 6:06 at the very bottom of the frame, a third of the way in from the left?

Must be murder to balance everything.

OK, finally downloaded the workprint, and here are my rough notes about what I saw. I mainly looked at color consistencies/inconsistencies. I listed the approximate timecodes for the events.

4 min. - Stormtrooper beige color

6:50 min - stars in the escape pod shaft flickering? Is that correct?

"No one to stop us this time" - Vader's friend slightly brownish

12:50 min - bluish Sand Crawler lights

14:45 - too bright, washed out sand color

16:35 - also too bright?

20:03 - color levels/Luke's hair and skin tone

20:45 - squarish hologram "shadow" behind image

23:13 - bluish table - should be white? Luke's clothes are also a bit blue

24:50 - odd color switch between shots - goes from orangey in the Binary Sunset scene to greenish in the next shot

29:30 - Odd color levels - Obi-wan very pale/brown, compared to later in the shot or at his home

35:12 - Color of admiral different from later in the clip

Also, Princess Leia differently colored in detention cell; may be because of the whiter lighting as opposed to the reddish lighting on Tantive IV.

The good things I noticed:
Awesome  clarity of the Star Destroyer in the beginning shot/tractor beam shot. Did you use the BD as a source? Also, no "ghost Luke"!

I would like to see it as well Harmy.

Just a general observation on all the color discussion going on above: 

There is a bit of blue in the star wars universe. ;)

No, there's no blue at all. It doesn't exist in the Star Wars palette! :)

That is actually why I didn't include a lot of "blue" problems in my notes, just the table part and the sand crawler lights which seemed excessively blue.