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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
I am sure I can post this and you'll understand...the magic of star wars. It defined my generation and no, its not like Harry Potter, Matrix or even Lord of the Rings. It was Sci-Fi, yes, but it was amazing. It was incomprehensible and incomparable to anything ever before or even since. And we knew it. That score and that scrawl together still gives me chills. The figures, I had them all. I lived it, breathed it. I remember bludgeoning my brothers with the now banned hard plastic, non-collapsable, glow-in-the-dark light sabers of course in a dark room. Beating each other senseless. Making vader noises. It captivated us. It moved us. There was good and evil in a clear way, not the convuluted mess of most movies today (though LOTR does this well). It was emotions and humanity. The relationships between the characters transcended the sci-fi setting. They had life, they weren't stoic like the new mess or overly cartoony. I am saying all this because I have seen the originals over a 100 times a piece. And growing up I heard the rumors of a trilogy to come before the IV-VI episodes and then a VII-IX trilogy, but years ticked by, the cast got older, I got older, and I put it aside as fantasy. Then I heard a rumor, and another of a new trilogy. The Phantom Menace is coming, people camping out for weeks. This is it. I sat in that seat, again hearing that score, seeing that scrawl with chills...16 YEARS, I've waited and its real. Then Jar-Jar, kiddie anakin, jar-jar, stoic emotionless character, cartoony scenes (was it me or did the technology from 1977 using the models look more realistic), the big fish scooby-doo scene, a whole race of Jar-Jar's...OK the pod-race cool, good, the darth maul scenes, awesome, ok its getting better, ummm wait, did he just die? Uh, Jar-Jar lives and Darth Maul dies (ok, lucas realising the cult status of boba fett after killing him does jango...hmm, duh, maul was that type of cool). I was crushed. I stayed in denial and in fact never went back to see it in the theater again. I saw it on DVD and saw the ATOC several times ( a vast improvement), but I stayed in denial. This was movies that were decent, but in my mind I had to divorce them from the ones I love so I didn't get sick inside. Because if they were Star Wars, my expectations were too high, my love too great. I'd forgive any, but Luca$. 16 years to prepare, 16 years to get it right, 16 years to work a real script with a monsterous fan base willing to contribute. And we got "jar-jar cartoons". I've put it all out of my mind over the last few years. The more I heard about Luca$ releasing one movie at a time of the original when he released all his others I thought. Screw this guy, how much money do you need (although now there is a box set coming out of the SE's). It's sickening. Then I heard about edits. The movies being edited, to how they should've been. I did some searches and came upon this site (Yes I love the OT as well another thing Luca$ messed up dearly). I got giddy again. People that love the original. People like Rikter and Magnoliafan that love the mythos so much that they collect, remaster, edit and improve. Giving the fans what they wanted all along (isn't that the point and further, why couldn't he realize this - now it's bigger than him and $$$). Just thought I'd share a love hate story and what brought me here. I love the posts. I love the forward-minded thinking. I love the dreaming of what if here. And I love that no one here blindly praises all that is Luca$. Star wars is mine and yours, not his, he just created it. That's my story. And I'll still get chills from that score and that scrawl no matter what.
now, do you believe that any one who is a kid right now, while the PT is coming out, is going feel and write as passionately about the PT in twenty years? I doubt it. I wish I could separate them from the OT like Bossk does, but I can't. All I keep thinking about is what could and should have been. If you like the PT, then enjoy. But I don't and can't. Sorry, that's how it is.
Thanks you are proving my point. that is what iw as talking about the PT did not seem like a SWs movie cus it was too different. The PT was too different from the OT you said it your self, cus it was more soap opra like, and character captivated you, and you were intranced. but the fact is that in the world today no kid would ever feel the way you did about SW with any movie, it is a point of changed times. in our world today people do not entrance themselves with movies. it have to some point with Lotr but Lotr was a special case. Lotr in my opinion was the foundation for modern fantasy, it was the first true fantasy novel. but all that is besides the point. another thing is that now matter what lucas did there is truely nothing that would have made you truely happy ( i am not saying this to spite you its just the simple trueth). after 16 years the millions of SWs fans all created there own idea of what happens in teh PT, and they al wanted it to be exactly like the originals, but the trueth is that this cannot be done, you cannot please everyong and it is immpossible to made a movie that will appeal to your fans in the exactly the same ways your originaly films did 16 years ago. times change, and people change. alll of this does not mean that the PT is horrible, its jsut different, which is what it is supposed to be.
lets look at the differences between the PT and the OT fundimentally.
1. the PT takes play 30-20 years b4 the OT.
that is a big time difference.
2. the PT take place in a time of overwhelming peace, whereas the OT is in a time of great opression.
the PT takes play during the golden age of the republic, jsut b4 and while it falls. the OT takes place after the fall of a civilizetion that existed for thousands of years, therefore there is it is going to be inheartently dark, asposed to the PT which should be very bright.
3. the scope of the PT is much much bigger then the OT. the OT was planetary whereas the PT was Galactic. this difference in scope is key.
cus it makes the movie impersonal therefore distroying what made the OT so great.
the fact is that the PT is different, and this doesnt mean that the PT sucks all it means is that the PT and the OT are differenet which is what they were fundimentaly suppose to be.