Warbler said:
CP3S said:
Warbler said:
I have to say Frink, when you were 18-21 years of age, you must have been very wise, smart, and mature for your age.
I side with Fink 100% on this.
And I don't get what that has to do with maturity or wisdom.
sometimes, it takes maturity and wisdom to understand what is right and wrong. I believe that is case here. I believe it would be very easy for someone who was young and immature to think it was wrong to fire Paterno, and to be upset by it. To a lot of people there, he was their hero. Why is it wrong for them to be broken hearted over this? Try and put yourselves their shoes.
CP3S said:
When I was 18-21 years old I certainly would have felt the exact same way I do now, and I don't even claim to be wise, smart, or even all that mature now.
I would love to travel back in time and ask the 18-21 years old CP3S what he thinks.
Warb, I am only five years older than that now. Go back to my early posts on this forum from five years ago, just based on my posts, as immature and stupid as many of them were, I think you can be pretty sure what the younger C3PX would have thought of this subject.
walkingdork said:
Warber, Yeah Paterno is a college football legend and he IS Penn State, but this is the sort of thing that is unforgivable and Paterno deserves to fall (hard) from the grace of Penn State.
oh I quite agree that Paterno deserved to be fired. Where Frink and I disagree is that I feel sorry for the students at Penn State and Frink does not.
Why should you feel sorry for them? Their hero turned out not to be so heroic. That always sucks, but as will it always be when someone feels the need to have heroes. Their hero turned out to be a severe dick, I could sympathize and feel bad for them if that is what they were upset about, but not when their upset is focused on the fact that not everyone else is as willing to forgive their hero for his extreme shortcomings as they are. They shouldn't be, he wasn't a very nice person.
I don't think it has to do with maturity, I think it has to do with people. I bet there are plenty of people 50 and over who are just as much up in arms about this as the 18-21 year old students.
walkingdork said:
My hope is that in 2 years people don't pretend to forget what's happened and begin to gush over Paterno again. I can just picture a new Joe Paterno statue at Penn State in a few years and that's pathetic.
there already is a statue of him there. Yeah, as much as I hate to say it, there should never be another one.
That one totally needs to be removed.
you are comparing Brett Favre to Joe Paterno? Paterno meant much more to Penn State than Favre ever meant to Green Bay. Paterno meant more to Penn State than Lombardi means to Green Bay.
And Paterno did something far worse to Penn State than Favre did to Greenbay. As Dork admitted, it wasn't exactly a perfect parallel.