TV's Frink said:
Incidentally, this looks like an interesting website:
http://mormonthink.com/introductionweb.htm
And I particularly enjoyed this:
What if we're wrong?People wonder what if by some chance the Church is 100% true, and that there is some sort of fantastic explanation for all the historical problems - would God punish us in the next life?
God gave us a brain and expects us to use it. We're expected to use every means at our disposal to seek the truth and to live our lives in a desirable way. "The Glory of God is intelligence" is something we hear at church all the time.
If the LDS Church is somehow 100% true, we're not too worried about defending our beliefs on judgment day. If we end up 'on trial' for not believing what the LDS Church has taught, the information on this website alone would justify our actions.
We would ask God to explain the following:
- Why doesn't Joseph Smith's translation of the facsimiles in the Book of Abraham and the Egyptian papyri match what Egyptologists say they mean?
- Why does the Book of Mormon mention so many things that did not exist in the Americas when the BOM took place such as horses, elephants, wheat, barley, silk, steel, etc.?
- Why were we told the Book of Mormon was translated from gold plates that were never used, when Joseph put his face in a hat and looked at a common stone he found while digging a well?
- Why did Joseph marry 11 men's wives while they were still married to their husbands?
The lists of questions would go on for several pages. If God does indeed exist, and he's the fair judge that we all believe him to be, then how could He condemn anyone for not believing a story fraught with so many problems?
Likewise if the church isn't true, then I don't think a just God would punish anyone for believing in it if they really believed it, although perhaps some people would be chided for IGNORING the red flags and continuing to believe a lie out of fear or willful ignorance. If the church isn't true then it does not have the power to 'save' you anyway.
LDS people would probably have the same response if, in the next life, they found out that Scientology was really God's one, true church. They would bring up the absurd problems with that religion and expect absolution for not believing in that religion.
According to LDS lore, Joseph Smith himself will have some role in the final judgment of our souls. Shortly before he died, Joseph said "no man knows my history; if I hadn't lived it I wouldn't have believed it myself." Well, if even Joseph wouldn't have believed it, then how can anyone blame us for not believing it either?
That looks like a pretty cool site. There are also good points in this quote, though I'm surprised that some of the "questionable" things they bring up are not easily explained, even by genuine objective historians. Let me give an example: David Whitmer, one of the Three Witnesses to the authenticity is quoted as stating that Joseph Smith put his face in a hat to translate the Book of Mormon. But other sources, particularly later sources indicate that the translation process was done in different methods, including simply using the plates and no assistive device. Check out this link for more info. The same goes for other claims, and if you want, I can point out the flawed mentions. What's interesting to me is that there are other more serious poitns that could have been made, so I'm not trying to simply make excuses. They really could have used better examples. I myself appreciate their mission in spite of the crises of faith it can cause for many. I feel I've had to reason through many things to arrive at my point, and now I find myself a stronger believer in spite of realizing how much I don't understand.