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Harmy, the new subtitle shot looks fantastic, I can't imagine them looking much better than that!
Harmy, the new subtitle shot looks fantastic, I can't imagine them looking much better than that!
Subs look nice, and darkening Vader in the hallway is quite good. Can't believe I never noticed that before, but the 2004 version looks utterly ridiculous. It's completely out of character with the photography, and unrealistic for it to appear that way given the lighting. The brightened corridor in Echo Base during Han and Leia's argument about him leaving seems like the same kind of thing, though that one I did notice a long time ago.
The 'plastic' look of the 2004 transfer is a subtle yet irritating problem that may not be fixable. The main issue is that during the cleanup process they took it upon themselves to artificially sharpen parts of the image for some reason (Lowry himself boasts of this in an interview), resulting in imagery that could not possibly have been photographed in such a manner. Smoke and haze no longer obscure background lights and detail, depth of field is shot to hell, and many things just look somehow wrong and unnatural in ways that are difficult to explain. Add in the messed up colour timing and wildly fluctuating saturation levels, along with the crushed blacks, and the result is so far removed from what the movie is supposed to look like that even the most earnest and dedicated attempts can only repair some of the damage. We put up with it for the sake of having a clean and detailed image, as opposed to the jaggies, smearing, and softness of the GOUT, but it's quite sad that every look at the 2004 reveals some new flaw that we just haven't found a way to describe yet. I'm not very knowledgeable of photography or video at all, but the fact that the so-called "professionals" who made them can't see the problems is completely absurd.
The shakiness of the Dewback in this shot always really bothered me, so I tried to mend it by having more of the picture from GOUT and only enhacing it with HD elements. The overall quality is therefore of course lower but I think it's worth it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40gYiDBmYeo
Unfortunately, I was so far unable to stabilize the Dewback in the shot where the heroes are entering the cantina :-(
Looks good! I hope you can figure out the other shot...
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Good work Harmy. A very noticeable difference.
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Thats great! How did you do that? The only is when the Video starts it over but looks great. :)
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I haven't watched the video since none found this, but man, they did a lot of work for a few frames that went unnoticed for 7 years. I'm not sure how you worked your magic (I'm guessing using the GOUT because its smoky and blurry anyway), but you managed to undo it.Harmy said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25d7RB3GcEU
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I actually used the 97SE.
Oh that was a 2004 change.
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That works too. ;-)Harmy said:
I actually used the 97SE.
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Ok... I looked at the clip five times and I still have no clue what I'm looking for. What's the "melted bars" issue exactly?
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Hi, my girlfriend had never seen Star Wars before (wtf?!!), so I watched this with her just now. It's an absolutely beautiful restoration, like magic sometimes. Certainly it was impossible for her to tell that it was a fan edit, so I'd call it a major success. She commented at the end that it was great to see the soft costumes and a lot different from modern CG movies. As a sort of layman I just have a few questions about this work:
When the X-Wings fly into the trench the quality goes down for a few seconds, is that shot from 35mm?
During the shots of the droids in the docking bay, the perspective seems to shift while C3PO is talking. Was this an artifact of the original filming?
@Corellian77:
@ShiiStyle:
Thanks. And to your questions: Most of the FX shots in the end battle are taken from an upscale/cleanup of the official 2006 Bonus DVD (GOUT).
As to the perspective, you'll notice that it changes when the focus changes, I'm pretty sure it's an effect caused by anamorphic cinematography.
I think its interesting that people see this as a problem. I recall seeing that someone wanted Adywan to "fix" it in ANHR.Harmy said:
As to the perspective, you'll notice that it changes when the focus changes, I'm pretty sure it's an effect caused by anamorphic cinematography.
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Hmmm, what a productive day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYuFuSp2w4U
:-)
For the first time I not sure what I am seeing.
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Troyig88 said:
For the first time I not sure what I am seeing.
A testament to how perfect things already were!
Check the smoothness/jerkiness of the motion. 1.2 looks much better.
No, that's not really it. It's hard to tell from YouTube but look for specs of dirt - Since the CG shot that replaced this one in the SE used the same background, I replaced the parts of the background that were usable from the SE and then I cleaned up the the remainder of GOUT footage frame by frame in photoshop.
Heh, I think YouTube dropped some frames then too. Oh well!
Three videos in one day! Thats what I call Christmas!
Troy
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Since you're posting all those videos about 1.2 changes, are you still going to release it before starting on 2.0? Nice job on all those scenes btw.
Before you start with 2.0, no offense, visit my thread and you might find the settings there useful as a base to start with.
Excellent work, again!
The melted bars thing really baffles me. Presumably that was an actual on-set explosion and not a special effect added in post-production, right? So why did somebody take it upon themselves to think it was not good enough? Is this a case of "Reality Is Unrealistic"? (as they say on TVTropes) Somebody thought what was actually photographed didn't measure up to their conception of what it ought to look like, even though that's what it actually did look like? And for just a couple of frames nobody would notice on their own? What the heck is that about?
And a little cherry on top:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZS3syrR5r0
:-)
Just looked at the most recent videos again:
I really do like your first Despecialized but the new version (2.0) looks like it's going to be even better. Fantastic job, Harmy!