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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 73

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Harmy said:

Would anyone please care to comment on the picture I posted here? I'd quite like to know if you guys think I should use the new one.

I would have to see it in motion. 

I noticed that the other dewback in the search scene in 1.0 looked off being completely still since in the original version the storm troopers pole moves just a little.

 

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OK, I'm going through v1.0 and I've made a huge decision. There are so many issues I want to address that I think it just might be better to start the editing process from scratch and make it v2.0.

I may still change my mind though, since it will mean redoing the colour correction from scratch including the blast frames.

I think though, that if I do it, I will work from the BD source, though I will need to re-encode it to a high bitrate 720p first. But that will give me an opportunity to pre-brighten the source and avoid some of the compression being brought up.

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2.0? That's great! I don't envy you, but I think we've found enough changes we had missed to warrant starting from scratch.

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Are you talking about the credits or the whole movie?

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Just so you know, Harmy.  My kid's not seeing Star Wars until your next release.

 

No pressure! ;)

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Troyig88 said:

Are you talking about the credits or the whole movie?

Hey, there aren't any errors left in the credits, so no need to start them from scratch!

:-P

Nah, I'm sure Harmy means the whole movie... sans the credits, of course ;-)

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By the way, I found nothing to complain about with the latest credits.  Now get to work on Empire and Jedi ;)

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Are you still releasing v1.0?

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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1.0 has been released for quite a while.

I will warn you, I was looking at You_Too's Blu-ray screenshots, and I did notice something unsettling. The screenshot of Vader's first entrance looks to have that waxy, Photoshop-watercolor-filter look of an image that has been too heavily degrained. Fortunately, I didn't see that in any of his other screenshots.

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I am sorry Harmy.  I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

Troy

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TServo2049 said:

I will warn you, I was looking at You_Too's Blu-ray screenshots, and I did notice something unsettling. The screenshot of Vader's first entrance looks to have that waxy, Photoshop-watercolor-filter look of an image that has been too heavily degrained.

You're right. I didn't think about that before you mentioned it but they sure have used noise reduction of some kind there. It might exist in the HDTV source too though, but the broadcast-compression plus the fact that Harmy's source was a downscaled one is maybe the reason it can't be seen there.

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TServo2049 said:

1.0 has been released for quite a while.

I will warn you, I was looking at You_Too's Blu-ray screenshots, and I did notice something unsettling. The screenshot of Vader's first entrance looks to have that waxy, Photoshop-watercolor-filter look of an image that has been too heavily degrained. Fortunately, I didn't see that in any of his other screenshots.

Actually that's a pretty strong argument against starting over whole-hog with the Blu Ray.  The Blu Ray introduces a lot of subtle changes that may take years to identify, and shortcomings of the HDTV capture are pretty well understood by now.  I wouldn't be against using the Blu Ray to fix specific problems, but starting over from scratch using the Blu Ray may break as many things as it fixes.

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Yeah, I guess it would open space for new errors to be made. Maybe I will just stick to the project files I already have.

And Laserschwert, the credits are awesome! I see you did apply the twinkling to the stars and it looks great with the new starfield.

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Sorry, didn't mean to be a wet blanket.  1.2 was already on track to be enough of an improvement to make a lot of people very, very happy.  I'm not sure I'd risk it myself.  I mean, just LOOK at the screenshot of R2 and 3PO just after they landed.  Yick.

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Harmy said:


I see you did apply the twinkling to the stars and it looks great with the new starfield.

Yeah, I've set the "twinkle layer" to 50% opacity though (it was 100% the first time around), so now it's a bit more subtle altogether.

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CatBus said:

I mean, just LOOK at the screenshot of R2 and 3PO just after they landed.  Yick.

What screenshots? If you mean screenshots from the Blu-Ray, that scene looks exactly the same in the broadcast, except in the broadcast the graininess of that scene produces a lot of compression where in the BD there are no compression artefacts that I can see.

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Harmy said:

CatBus said:

I mean, just LOOK at the screenshot of R2 and 3PO just after they landed.  Yick.

What screenshots? If you mean screenshots from the Blu-Ray, that scene looks exactly the same in the broadcast, except in the broadcast the graininess of that scene produces a lot of compression where in the BD there are no compression artefacts that I can see.

I was talking about You_Too's BD screenshots from the other thread.  Whether the broadcast compression is responsible for it or not, yours looks much better.  It was just an example of bad things lurking in the Blu-Ray I hadn't seen before--why I hadn't seen them before may be because you already took care of it.

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Where are these screens? Could you link to the specific ones that you mean?

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I'm ok with using the Bluray as a source and starting with a new version. I would even suggest you output a 1080p output. It would be easy in premiere. You just replace your video with the 1080p source for the final render.

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Troyig88 said:

Are you still releasing v1.0?

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1.0 has been released for quite a while.

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I am sorry Harmy.  I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

Troy

What's not to understand?

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I'm not sure what you mean is wrong with that picture but it doesn't look like that on the BD. I just took this from the Blu-Ray.