TheBoost said: A turn to the Dark Side (in the OT) is not described as a simple choice based on wanting a specific outcome. It's seductive, and easy. Dangerous. Luke's "motivation" is getting him pissed off/scared enough to use the Dark Side. "Why" doesn't matter. (There is no why). The Dark Side isn't steroids. It's not a shady choice that leads to a goal. The Dark Side is methamphetamine. Try it and it destroys your soul and takes control.
Isn't it a bit of both though? It starts out as choice to use it to reach a specific goal....then it becomes a dependence, and before you know it you are lost.
The problem I have with the meth analogy is I think it undercuts the character's choice and free will by making it have such an overpowering unbreakable influence for such a quick immediate act.
Vladius said:
1. It's not complete and total, but it's on the same path ("once you start on the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny," it's gradual but requires a start, this is the start)
That'd be fine, except this and vader's sacrifice is supposed to be the climax of the movie. Kinda falls flat for me in that context.
2. It's not one moment because the entirety of the scene is the "moments" when he's having inner conflict
Too much too fast.....at least without proper context.
3. It's also not one moment because it's already shown that he can recklessly act for his emotions in the previous movie when he goes to Cloud City against the wishes of people wiser than he is
Yeah....but it's about the choice. He chose to try and help his friends against his teachers wishes and it put them both at risk. His "choice" here feels more like "fall to the darkside" or "don't fall to the darkside" to me.