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doubleKO said:


Some of my favourite Simpsons episodes:

S10E07  Lisa Gets an "A"

S10E09  Mayored To The Mob

S10E13  Homer To The Max

S10E23  Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo


You have my pity.

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Bunch of Simpsons snobs...

What would you have them replace it with? More Seth MacFarlane? Reality TV? I know... a show about dancing, that would be awesome ;)

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That's like asking me if I'd rather see a beloved family member become a syphilitic whore rather than a perfect stranger. The answer is obvious ...

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doubleKO said:

Bunch of Simpsons snobs...

What would you have them replace it with? More Seth MacFarlane? Reality TV? I know... a show about dancing, that would be awesome ;)

I replace it with time spent here ;-)

Seriously, I've always hated the "it's not good anymore but still better than 90% of the carp on tv" argument.  I don't watch tv to see the best of a bad lot, I watch it to be entertained.  And if there's nothing on that entertains me, I find something else to replace it - and that something else is probably not tv.

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LET'S DANCE!

I take your point Frink, but The Simpsons is still entertaining to me (and TheBoost). You can join DuracellEnergizer in pitying us while we enjoy ourselves ;)

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doubleKO said:

LET'S DANCE!

I take your point Frink, but The Simpsons is still entertaining to me (and TheBoost). You can join DuracellEnergizer in pitying us while we enjoy ourselves ;)

Fixed.

Sorry, I couldn't pass this one up.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

FWIW, my pity is very much tongue in cheek.

Up until now, your pity was all that kept me going... ... .. :(

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Davnes007 said:

Would you like my pity?

It also uses my tongue...but in a different way.

If I wasn't married, and if I weren't pretty sure you were a dude, and I wasn't sober, sure.

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One thing i cannot stand about the Simpsons the characters never age.

The kids are still kids when they should be like 40 years old by now,lol.

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Yeah, that's one of the many problems with a show that's almost 25 years old. Take Skinner, for example. The guy is supposed to be in his forties, but they still say he's a "vietnam veteran". But guys who fought in Vietnam are now in their sixties, correct me if I'm wrong...

Plus they changed Homer and Marge's back story so many times it's not even funny! "That 90's show" is certainly a contender for Worst Episode Ever! I'm on an episode marathon, soon I'm going to catch up with the current season, and I gotta tell you, I can really see them get worse and worse. Gags, gags, gags, not all of them worth the time and the animation, mind you. And some of them are not only stupid, but tasteless, take for example that episode where Ned was chasing Homer, and they both do this incredibly elaborate and impossible parkour sequence. That's stupid. Now take that episode that begins with Homer having the "best dream ever", which apparently was a homage/ripoff from a Sopranos episode, in which he dreamt he killed his father. The first time I saw it I was shocked, and still don't like it to this day, because I can't help but feel that isn't the same Homer Simpson that, 20 years ago, upon learning he was going to die soon, decided to spend a day with his dad, even if he didn't like him that much. The characters no longer resemble their former selves. Homer went from a loving father, just a little slow, to an annoying dimwit who will do incredibly stupid things just because the writers think it's funny.

And whose bright idea was it to bring Lunchlady Doris back? If you retire a character because the voice actor is dead, don't change your mind!

I'm glad they didn't do the same with any of the Phil Hartman characters. Man, Hartman was incredible, and incredibly funny! You guys seen his SNL audition on Youtube?

Now I gotta stop or I'll ramble incoherently til they are forced to unplug this goddamned computer. Stupid hangover, why won't you stop???

 

Smell ya later.

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I stopped watching the Simpsons after the first couple of seasons. I had a hunch the characters wouldn't age at all. I would tune in occasionally for the "event" type episodes like, who shot Mr. Burns and, treehouse of horror. I stopped doing that sometime in the 90s though. I watched the movie when it aired on FX but, that's about it... That said I'm glad for you Simpsons fans getting more seasons.



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Ziggy Stardust said:

Fixed.

Sorry, I couldn't pass this one up.

Forgiven. Even more so since I made it into the Zignature!

DuracellEnergizer said:

FWIW, my pity is very much tongue in cheek.

FWIW, my list of favourite episodes is very long, and I wouldn't say I'm at all hard to please when it comes to cartoons.

Davnes007 said:

Would you like my pity?

It also uses my tongue...but in a different way.

:D

The not-aging part was one of the best things about it. But after this long it does seem a bit weird.

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twister111 said:

I stopped watching the Simpsons after the first couple of seasons.

And yet you love Power Rangers....

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doubleKO said:

Bunch of Simpsons snobs...

What would you have them replace it with? More Seth MacFarlane? Reality TV? I know... a show about dancing, that would be awesome ;)

Hmmm... Why not replace it with a show about space-cowboys?

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greenpenguino said:

Hmmm... Why not replace it with a show about space-cowboys?

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I think I might kill for this to be in the mainstream media.  Adult Swim's been rerunning it for seasonally 10 years straight, something about it's gotta be worthwhile.

Leonardo said:

I can't help but feel that isn't the same Homer Simpson that, 20 years ago, upon learning he was going to die soon, decided to spend a day with his dad, even if he didn't like him that much. The characters no longer resemble their former selves. Homer went from a loving father, just a little slow, to an annoying dimwit who will do incredibly stupid things just because the writers think it's funny.

Nobody likes Grandpa jokes started as far back as Season 6, but people still like those episodes!  Still, in terms of Homer's characterization I tend to agree at least a bit. There are plenty of stupid antics he did in the earlier seasons, too...

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bkev said:

Leonardo said:

I can't help but feel that isn't the same Homer Simpson that, 20 years ago, upon learning he was going to die soon, decided to spend a day with his dad, even if he didn't like him that much. The characters no longer resemble their former selves. Homer went from a loving father, just a little slow, to an annoying dimwit who will do incredibly stupid things just because the writers think it's funny.

Nobody likes Grandpa jokes started as far back as Season 6, but people still like those episodes!  Still, in terms of Homer's characterization I tend to agree at least a bit. There are plenty of stupid antics he did in the earlier seasons, too...

Yes, "nobody likes Grampa"... nobody wants him around, in fact the first time Mona came back,  this little conversation occurred during dinner:

SNPP said:
  Lisa: Grandma, have you ever thought about moving back to
          Springfield?
   Homer: You could live with Grampa again.
           [everyone, including Abe, laughs]
     Abe: Oh, I'm a living joke.

which is both funny and a bit sad because of the way Abe is treated by his own family.

Somebody might even want him dead, cause he's just a rambling, senile, Matlock loving oxygen waster.

But that scene I mentioned earlier with Homer dreaming about suffocating his dad because he did not want to deal with his recovery, well... it's just not funny to me, it's only really disturbing.

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One thing i cannot stand about the Simpsons the characters never age.

The kids are still kids when they should be like 40 years old by now,lol.

Yeah, that's one of the many problems with a show that's almost 25 years old. Take Skinner, for example. The guy is supposed to be in his forties, but they still say he's a "vietnam veteran". But guys who fought in Vietnam are now in their sixties, correct me if I'm wrong...

I stopped watching the Simpsons after the first couple of seasons. I had a hunch the characters wouldn't age at all

 

In my 20 years of watching the Simpsons, the fact the characters never age has never, ever, ever, even for a moment ever, ever struck me as a problem, nor have I spent more than an 1/8th of a second contemplating the continuity problems this brings up.

 

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skyjedi2005 said:


One thing i cannot stand about the Simpsons the characters never age.

The kids are still kids when they should be like 40 years old by now,lol.


TV Tropes to the rescue!

TV Tropes said:


Each season of The Simpsons exists in a parallel universe, completely separate from one another.

This would explain why time never passes, no matter how long the show has been on and no matter how much time passes during each individual episode. There have been over 400 episodes to date, and yet the characters never age. Even if each episode represented one day, at least one year should have passed in their timeline; and the episode with the Itchy and Scratchy movie spans about eight months.

Also, this theory would explain the contradictory origins of each of the characters, such as the numerous accounts of how Homer and Marge met, whether they met during the 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s. And then there's the matter of why Homer is stupid - whether it's because of a gene that makes all male Simpsons become stupid as they get older, or if Homer was once a genius and a crayon that he shoved up his nose as a child made him stupid.

Each season is its own timeline, excepting Seasons 6 and 7, which are directly connected by a two-part episode and so are only one timeline. Any time an episode references events from an earlier season, they acknowledge those events as happening in Broad Strokes. When Homer asks, "Marge, what were your gambling debts last year?" he is referencing a gambling problem that Marge had; but in the reality of that episode, it might have been dealt with differently, and the characters would have been one year younger.

• A larger theory of this would be the first ten seasons are a different Springfield, sort of like Earths 1 and 2.

• Alternatively, each time an episode contradicts a previous episode we start viewing a new Springfield that doesn't have the contradicted episode in its continuity.


Works for me! (especially since I hate the "floating timeline" concept)

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DuracellEnergizer said:



TV Tropes said:


Each season of The Simpsons exists in a parallel universe, completely separate from one another.



Works for me! (especially since I hate the "floating timeline" concept)

Either concept seem a tad too complicated for "The Simpsons." 

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You know what works better? Only as much continuity as any writer feels like. The "Seasonal Timelines" model does a terrible job of explaining why all timelines shown to viewers after a certain point lack Maude Flanders.

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doubleKO said:

I take your point Frink, but The Simpsons is still entertaining to me (and TheBoost). You can join DuracellEnergizer in pitying us while we enjoy ourselves ;)

It's not doubleKO and TheBoost.