Starkiller, I respect all that you said, and agree with it completely. I am nineteen, and though I'm from Jimbo's generation, I was long ago appalled with the way my generation and others regard women and often behave in general. I admit that I had a crush on Natalie Portman when I saw her in the first two prequels, but I wouldn't have been nearly as taken with her had I not read how intelligent she actually was. It's always tempting to dream about the women we see in movies and so forth, but you have to draw a fine line. You can see their beauty and simply admire it, or you can let it go further, which can be completely detrimental, especially as the odds are very slim that you'll ever set eyes upon them, much less say more than five words to them. I admit it, I have a Princess Leia Winamp skin with her wearing her slave outfit, and I have desktops with Keira Knightley from King Arthur and items such as that, but they are not because I'm horny. I find females mystical and lovely and I view them as equals, and so it sickens me at the way many men treat women.

Starkiller, even though I'm as young as I am, I too have had my mouth washed out and have been spanked many times over the years. I was sent to my room, but my parents paddled me or gave me a tongue-lashing first, so I would go to my room with enough of a heavy conscience that I couldn't bring myself to read or do anything else. Today, being in college and seeing the utter lack of discipline rampant on my campus, I greatly respect how my parents disciplined me, and realize things would be a lot better if other parents did the same thing.

And Jimbo, please quit accusing those of you that disagree with you on this point as being gay or female in an attempt to put holes in their argument. Just because someone put his hormones under control doesn't make him gay or anything else. It just means he's not horny.