Mrebo said:
sonnyboo said:
twooffour said:
Well stand by your opinion then, I doubt you can make any solid case for it.
I was never trying to convince you or anyone else to change their minds. That was never my intention. I merely expressed my opinions, as they are.
Is that what you do? Try to make people 'prove' beyond all doubt that their subjective opinion is right or wrong? Why not debate which is better, chocolate or vanilla ice cream?
Okay, well he does do that. But I happen to agree with him here.
There is a legitimate criticism that you claim RoTJ is worse than 5 other movies...without contrasting them with those 5 movies. Instead you express your opinion about how RoTJ could have been better. You're entitled to think whatever you want (of course), but there is a big gap between what you assert and the reasons for it. To say vanilla ice cream is the worst flavor because it doesn't have chocolate chips in it signifies that you like chocolate chips, not that vanilla is so terrible.
Conceptually and in execution, the PT was a mess. I also pointed out how similar "flaws" you identify exist in other SW movies. RoTJ was fun, made sense, had a lot of great effects, had great emotional scenes (Yoda's death, duel with Vader), and decent to good acting.
Just to clarify, I really don't care if someone watches a movie I consider shitty and enjoys it overall (i.e. happiness hormones), it's just when one starts making arguments attempting to quantify something, that fallacies can be made, and misjudgement becomes possible.
And I really don't think anyone should have a problem with people objecting to their opinions if they put their opinions out there in the first place.
I mean, I recently watched Pirates 4 and enjoyed it (I hardly even followed the plot, but I enjoyed the witty lines and entertaining acting, along with atmosphere and action... you know, the stuff that doesn't require too much thought), I regularly watch NC reviews just for fun, without knowing the movie or digging into the points presented, and I may even express my opinions on a forum, but I'll also realize my fallibility and won't mind getting corrected or bashed.
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And yea, I agree with the above post, too.
Sometimes, you just start thinking about a movie, articulate some ideas you've had in the back of your head, and write them down in a post.
It's still very possible to overlook flaws within these arguments, or forget to compare them to the other objects you're referring to in the post title, and then someone points out and BAM.
Having that said, nah, I don't demand that he writes an essay before he dares to post a thread or anything, I'm just saying that I've read through the list and think that the leap from this to "worst SW movie" is giant and makes no sense.
Thx.