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msycamore
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Star Wars : 'Tantive's Orange Items' Thread & other unintended objects
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24-Sep-2011, 6:28 PM

Ah the rental tape, so that what it was, thanks. It's a little weird that they actually made two different NTSC - Pan & Scan transfers for the different formats the same year. If I understand it correctly they used one for the VHS and Betamax release and another for the CED and Laserdisc. Never knew about the characters in the upper frame, is it letters or some sort of time code or is it static throughout the film?

The Aluminum Falcon said:

In any case, for some reason, to my eyes, the Rental VHS looks cleaner than the laserdisc (which looks to be overcropped and oversaturated). Look at the detail on R2 in the second shot, the VHS seems to be clearer. Interesting...

That's because it is a blended frame.

none said:

msycamore wrote: What Burtt says in that book is probably what we're seeing in this scene but have anyone checked the actual scene he describes "right when the stormtroopers come bursting through the door" for some jumpy spot?

Yeah looked at two versions and not noticing anything out of the ordinary.  Same slight jittering, which is all over the home video releases.  But after the Stormtroopers come in is another slight rip or mark. (thru the helmet)

Burtt may explain the scene, in this manner, as that's how most people would remember it.  If you said Tantive to most people it wouldn't register, but the first sight of the Stormtroopers is something most people would recall.  But yes he could just have said first appearance of 3po and R2.  Not sure, but from the story, there was a whole bunch of film lying on the floor.

A second thought, how did they achieve the initial shaky camera effect.  As it doesn't change (at all?) between releases going with the idea that it was done on set, just hit the camera guy.  But is there a chance the effect was done in post? 

Thanks for checking, you never know with old Benjamin. I wonder why they register as orange, I noticed that you have more of them when I worked on the Technidisc, for example see 2nd close up of Luke in the sunset. I would be very surprised if the shaky camera effect wasn't done on set, cheap and effective.

none said:

So the 82 CED, 86 LDJapan and 82UKTV are all possible candidates for Not having the orange errors?  Seems as if the other 82's Starkiller's LD and Library versions also appear orange error free.  If we concur, i'll create a new category color code for these.

If I understand it correctly, the '82 CED and  '82 LD uses the same transfer so the tear-free ones would be so far:

  • '82 VHS, Betamax
  • '82 CED, LD
  • '86 JSC LD, '89/'92 SWE LD

 

Don't know about the various early PAL videos.

none said: 

Haven't seen that Widescreen Review article, will see if maybe through multiple pages the full article could be found.

on the webpage, anyone having issues with the format, is this a good presentation method?  tried to get the OrangeA/B images centered upon themselves, but then it screwed up another aspect, they wouldn't show full size, they'd get cropped by the frame.  Seeing if there's a different way of create the same effect. 

Thanks. You're the web-master. ;) I think the comparison page is great and very easy to follow, good job! :)