Alexrd said:
Mrebo said:
TheBoost said:
Mielr said:
Seriously, do we care what the people at TFN think of us?! LOL! Those people are beyond delusional- they have ZERO credibility so I hardly think they're in a position to judge us.
That someone dares to like the PT or the SE is delusional? I someone with less discenring tastes about color-seperation really crazy? Does liking the dug in Jabba's palace really cost someone their credibility?
Yes, yes, and yes!
jk. I didn't think Mielr was going that far. I mean a lot of them do seem delusional. Not for what they like but for why they like it (eg "because GL always wanted it this way!"; "It's necessary because like the OT is like so old and stuff!") Mielr can correct me if he's actually saying they're nutty simply because they have bad taste. There are members here who have expressed enjoyment of the PT and SE to at least some extent.
As a user of TF.N and OT.com (and other forums aswell, like LucasForums.com), I believe that calling this place a bashers sanctuary or TF.N a gushers one has the same credibility and fairness. I've been a target of prejudice in both places. In TF.N for expressing my desire of wanting the OOT to be released properly and for disliking some of the SE changes, and here for liking (or defending) the prequels and for being a TF.N user. With that said, I don't fall in the mistake of blaming the whole community for the immaturity and lack of argumentation of a couple of users.
Anyway, dark_jedi has made some good points here.
I liked the extra Wampa scene in the SE. I enjoyed Adywan's alterations. I think many of us enjoy different versions (we have a whole section devoted to fan edits!). I'm also an unabashed ROTJ and Ewok lover though there are plenty around here who criticize ROTJ and Ewoks.
I've honestly just been discouraged by the PT and SE even if I liked certain elements. At least up to '99 I knew a fair amount about the EU, read lots of books, prided myself on knowing obscure facts, collected the toys into the 2000s (and knew the approximate values of everything in my collection by heart; of course I'd never get rid of my collection). And I know for a fact I didn't grow up. And GL saying that the original Star Wars are obsolete only drives the stake deeper.
So where is a discouraged fan to go who still appreciates everything Star Wars originally stood for? Where they all say everything is fine? Where I'm lulled into believing that the PT made sense? Where I'm told the original tone and story is simply outdated? Those don't seem like places for someone who loves Star Wars to go.
But this place seems fairly level-headed. Look at how many are criticizing the more hyperbolic statements that are sometimes made. I wish I could love anything and everything that has the Star Wars label attached to it. I once did.