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Looking through the PT special features in more depth you get a few glimpses at the EP2 scene where Padme adds 3P0's coverings as well as Anthony Daniels controlling the 3P0 puppet. This also has shots where Anthony in the rig is digitally removed so this scene progressed further than just the filming stage. Now this would have made a more interesting deleted scene than some of the crap they added.

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Plus I would have love to see the Beru and Padme talk in the kitchen in AOTC and the other Kenobi/Padme scene in ROTS.

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ROFLRICK said:

 It's not going to matter. Lucas publicly rebukes those that want the OT. He doesn't give a hoot about all the one-star reviews in the world. The group of people that would take the time to "vote with their wallet" is so small compared to the general buying public who thinks having Star Wars in HD is "pretty cool". That's all that matters.

While you may be right about our ultimate impact, I disagree that it's a waste of time.  If we save a few people from spending their hard-earned money on something they would oppose if they knew the facts, then we will have made a few people's lives better.  Also, the more people know about the preservation efforts out there, the more likely that THOSE efforts (such as Harmy's) will survive even if LFL never releases the OUT.

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ROFLRICK said:

Promus said:

I did MY part...gave a crappy review and rated it as one star.

Let's "stay on target," people! This is our chance to "strike back" in some small way at Lucas!!

This is pretty ridiculous as well. It's not going to matter. Lucas publicly rebukes those that want the OT. He doesn't give a hoot about all the one-star reviews in the world. The group of people that would take the time to "vote with their wallet" is so small compared to the general buying public who thinks having Star Wars in HD is "pretty cool". That's all that matters.

Actually, I didn't have to waste much time at all to vote with my wallet at all.  In fact, it took no time.  I've spent no time not buying these movies.  It's great.

But I really hate this mindset.  Forgive me for saying so, or don't, but it's a pretty lousy attitude to have.  "You're not going to win, so why bother trying?"  Gee, maybe because we believe in something?  Maybe because, even if we can't win, we're at least sticking to our principles.  Maybe because, even if it's a tiny dent in George's pockets, at least we know that he didn't get our money, that at least there's a few ten thousands of dollars he won't have to finance that much more CG shit on the screen.  But, seriously, Star Wars "fans" are some of the most defeatist and frustrating people I've ever met!  It's amazing they ever get anything done if they have that kind of attitude in real life too!

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It's not my intention to be pessimistic, I just think it's wrong to presume that someone's life will be made better by the effort. Hell, why would George ever release the OUT? The work is being done for him.

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But honestly, the SW fanbase is broad and I say the people on this and forums like it probably make up like 5 percent or less of SW fandom. We are very ANAL-RETENTIVE people to most of the SW fan population, and insulting them does no good, it's just makes a lot of people here seem more extreme and irrational.

Remember, be nice, explain things, be reasonable, keep your anger in check, you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

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Gaffer Tape said:

ROFLRICK said:

Promus said:

I did MY part...gave a crappy review and rated it as one star.

Let's "stay on target," people! This is our chance to "strike back" in some small way at Lucas!!

This is pretty ridiculous as well. It's not going to matter. Lucas publicly rebukes those that want the OT. He doesn't give a hoot about all the one-star reviews in the world. The group of people that would take the time to "vote with their wallet" is so small compared to the general buying public who thinks having Star Wars in HD is "pretty cool". That's all that matters.

Actually, I didn't have to waste much time at all to vote with my wallet at all.  In fact, it took no time.  I've spent no time not buying these movies.  It's great.

But I really hate this mindset.  Forgive me for saying so, or don't, but it's a pretty lousy attitude to have.  "You're not going to win, so why bother trying?"  Gee, maybe because we believe in something?  Maybe because, even if we can't win, we're at least sticking to our principles.  Maybe because, even if it's a tiny dent in George's pockets, at least we know that he didn't get our money, that at least there's a few ten thousands of dollars he won't have to finance that much more CG shit on the screen.  But, seriously, Star Wars "fans" are some of the most defeatist and frustrating people I've ever met!  It's amazing they ever get anything done if they have that kind of attitude in real life too!

I'll wager that wrongfully and intentionally attempting to sway the general public's idea of something is not a good principle. And furthermore, the thing that most of us want is accessible right here on this website. I've been enjoying the OUT for some time now, in versions that indicate they were created with a lot of love and care. The obsession with getting a single man to do what more creative men are doing already (and better) is silly.

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ROFLRICK said:

Gaffer Tape said:

ROFLRICK said:

Promus said:

I did MY part...gave a crappy review and rated it as one star.

Let's "stay on target," people! This is our chance to "strike back" in some small way at Lucas!!

This is pretty ridiculous as well. It's not going to matter. Lucas publicly rebukes those that want the OT. He doesn't give a hoot about all the one-star reviews in the world. The group of people that would take the time to "vote with their wallet" is so small compared to the general buying public who thinks having Star Wars in HD is "pretty cool". That's all that matters.

Actually, I didn't have to waste much time at all to vote with my wallet at all.  In fact, it took no time.  I've spent no time not buying these movies.  It's great.

But I really hate this mindset.  Forgive me for saying so, or don't, but it's a pretty lousy attitude to have.  "You're not going to win, so why bother trying?"  Gee, maybe because we believe in something?  Maybe because, even if we can't win, we're at least sticking to our principles.  Maybe because, even if it's a tiny dent in George's pockets, at least we know that he didn't get our money, that at least there's a few ten thousands of dollars he won't have to finance that much more CG shit on the screen.  But, seriously, Star Wars "fans" are some of the most defeatist and frustrating people I've ever met!  It's amazing they ever get anything done if they have that kind of attitude in real life too!

I'll wager that wrongfully and intentionally attempting to sway the general public's idea of something is not a good principle. And furthermore, the thing that most of us want is accessible right here on this website. I've been enjoying the OUT for some time now, in versions that indicate they were created with a lot of love and care. The obsession with getting a single man to do what more creative men are doing already (and better) is silly.

So you're saying we shouldn't complain because there's fanedits?

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I'm saying that there is a very small chance that you are wasting your time. You shouldn't simplify so much. I'm not referring to fan edits (which are icing on my nerd cake), but specifically the preservation efforts for the OUT. Harmy's are amazing. Dark_Jedi's are, too. What do you gain if George also releases them? The satisfaction that he relented? I ask again, what's the point of that?

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ROFLRICK said:

I'm saying that there is a very small chance that you are wasting your time. You shouldn't simplify so much. I'm not referring to fan edits (which are icing on my nerd cake), but specifically the preservation efforts for the OUT. Harmy's are amazing. Dark_Jedi's are, too. What do you gain if George also releases them? The satisfaction that he relented? I ask again, what's the point of that?

Well I'll actually have them to view, as I'm not going to download the movies on the internet.

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Is it a matter of inaccessibility, or morals?

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ROFLRICK said:

I'll wager that wrongfully and intentionally attempting to sway the general public's idea of something is not a good principle. And furthermore, the thing that most of us want is accessible right here on this website. I've been enjoying the OUT for some time now, in versions that indicate they were created with a lot of love and care. The obsession with getting a single man to do what mor

Yay, lectures! Who doesn't love that?

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I read endless posts about how wrong it is that OUT isn't officially released and the crusader like lengths folks will go to prove it, so I'm sharing an alternate point of view. What's so bad about that?

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I was afraid bluray.com would cave in and give it a glowering review. Actually, the 5-star rating is disproportionate to what the reviewer looks like he's flirting with trying to say, but never ends up saying it. It's like deep down he knows it's a piece of crap, but can't bring himself to admit something SW related is a lame disappointment.

Typical mainstream fanboy reaction.

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Ok, I have the set (bought for the grand total of £21.00) and while I'm not overly excited by it all, it's still nice to have on my shelf with all my other blu box sets.

 

But, regarding the PT deleted scenes, there is truly one gem...a real WTF moment which I'm surprised no one has mentioned....

It's from ROTS and I can only imagine it was a joke, gag, whatever, because if it was for real, then this would have been the biggest "are you fucking kidding me"!?!?

It's an extended version of the elevator scene where Anakin ad Obi-Wan are on their way to rescue the Palps. In one particular piece of dialog, they are trying to work out what Artoo is saying..."Can you understand what he's saying?"..."No can you?"..."no...I think beep was up"..."I think beep was down"...Or some shit like that....But they are actually saying Artoos BEEPS....Not the word beep, but proper beeps...Real fucking beeps coming from their mouths..WTF?!?!?!  

Honestly, if that made it into the film, ROTS would have sucked so bad, as it stands it's a masterpiece!! ;)

 

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That thing about there being no need for LFL to release the originals because there are preservations here is BS. Mine are not true original cuts, because it is just impossible to remove every change that's been done and keep the cut in reasonable quality, not to mention that I still use the overly filtered, black crushed 2004 release. And dark_jedi's, no matter how amazingly he was able to improve them, will always be sourced from a motion smeared mpeg2 encode of a 1993 LD master. So there is still need for a proper release - the fan restorations are just a temporary replacement and we should still campaign for a proper release for the sake of film history preservation.


And the other argument, that George has no reason to release the OOT, because there are fan preservation is also totally wrong. In fact, it was the fan made bootlegs that prompted George to release the GOUT in the first place - at the time the fan-made bootlegs were all decent LD transfers, so what he gave us in an official release was exactly that, only that one bit better, so it'd be worth buying to those who already have the bootlegs - minimal cost, maximum profit.


Now there are HD quality bootlegs, maybe it will make him release the OOT in HD quality, again just that one bit better. Not out of realization of how important it is to preserve film history but simply out of greed.


I am afraid though that I can't trust LFL to get it right any more - I hope that if a proper release is ever to be made, they'd consider having someone like Mr Harris do the restoration. Otherwise, if done in-house by LFL, we might live to see the originals released DVNRed to hell with atrocious colour timing.


 

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Woah that last one. Was Grevious originally supposed to be Maul brought back from the brink?

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This bickering about not needing Lucas to release the OUT is pointless. The answer isn't, and should never be, "let the fans do it". The original (award-winning) cuts of Star Wars should be available at every Walmart and known to every person. It should not be recreated by hand by a handful of fans and shared as a "fan edit" 97% of the population doesn't know exists. IT'S STAR WARS. ON BLU-RAY. It should have all of the versions.

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Tobar said:

Woah that last one. Was Grevious originally supposed to be Maul brought back from the brink?

 

Amusing if so; I remember way back when advocating that as an idea to make Grievious a more interesting character that actually had some sort of meaning to Obi-Wan. Really they should never have killed Maul in the first place and had him in the General's role.


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Klingon_Jedi said:

Really they should never have killed Maul in the first place and had him in the General's role.

If they hadn't killed Maul, we wouldn't get Christopher Lee as a Sith Lord.