Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 274

dark_jedi said:

adywan said:

I just stuck in ESB and the first thing i noticed is some horrible motion smearing. This is really noticeable during the crawl where the crawl actually seems to drag the stars into streaks as it recedes . This was a problem with the 2004 transfer although hardly noticeable on the DVDs but it looks terrible in 1080p

Ady, are you watching this on your retail BD now, or is this the "other" copy? if it is retail now, that sux. I still can't check anything until Friday.

Thanks

I'm watching the retail Blu-Rays. I deleted the rips. Just picked them up today from HMV and got a free Vader/Blu-ray T-shirt. Most of the staff were dressed as Star Wars characters, but the girl behind the counter didn't look too pleased being dressed as AOTC Padme with the bare midriff :)

Here is an example of the "smearing" later in the movie. Now i brightened the image because it is hard to see what i mean on a still image, but it is noticeable when in motion and this isn't motion blur before anyone says ;)

Why does that smearing make me feel like laughing?

Good news about the OT deleted scenes though. LFL's ultra-expensive THX film scanning process is good for something at least.

TV's Frink said:

 

none said:

Harmy's comedy version

What?

 

Link

Baronlando said:

danny_boy said:

LOL!---Regarding RAH's restoration of the Godfather---------Francis Ford Coppola admitted he could not even remember how the film  looked in it's original theatrical release.

Yet an anonymouse internet poster claims he can remember how "brilliant " Star Wars looked(over 25 years ago!).

I saw Star wars twice theatrically(1981 and 1983) and I cannot remember one  way or the other in 2011 wether the prints I saw were vibrant or dull or dirty or clean.

I'll stick with that 1982 VHS for reference for the time being

Do you really think Coppola meant that in the same way at all?

 Really?

Yeah I do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqE9HZKGbMU&feature=related

Just picked up the Blu ray set today.

I watched a New Hope first.

And it's hands down by far and away the best it has ever looked on home video(In my opinion of course).

I also have Blu rays for Close Encounters, A Bridge Too Far, Saturday Night Fever,The Deep  and Smoky and the Bandit which are other films from 77'.

And this transfer for A New Hope blows each and every one of those away.

I happen to have seen the Close Encounters Blu-Ray and there is just no way this blows it away.

Harmy said:

I happen to have seen the Close Encounters Blu-Ray and there is just no way this blows it away.

A lot of the climactic scenes involving the arrival and departure of the alien ships on the Close Encounters BD have noticable  colour banding which can be quite distracting.

*I just edited my initial statement by adding "in my opinion" because this is going to be an entirely subjective argument.*

danny_boy said:

 

Just picked up the Blu ray set today.

I watched a New Hope first.

And it's hands down by far and away the best it has ever looked on home video.

I also have Blu rays for Close Encounters, A Bridge Too Far, Saturday Night Fever,The Deep  and Smoky and the Bandit which are other films from 77'.

And this transfer for A New Hope blows each and every one of those away.

There is no way that you can say that the OT transfers blow the Close Encounters transfer away. Close Encounters has natural grain that hasn't been digitally scrubbed away, while the OT transfers grain is almost scrubbed out of existence and Lowrey's algorithm has the typical static grain plaguing the trilogy. And Close Encounters doesn't have the digital smearing that the OT does either. Colours in Close encounters looks the same as it always has done, yet the OT no longer resembles how the films ever looked. The OT has also had some extra sharpening added to it which is quite noticeable in parts

EDIT, i see that you added "in your opinion" after i typed this.

zombie84 said:

The SW set is likely sharper and cleaner, and I guess that's the main thing people expect out of Blu-ray. They said the same thing about the DVDs in 2004 too. The clarity is impressive, I have to admit, that's the one thing the transfer always had going for it.

But yeah, the Close Encounters set has way better picture, overall.

Well obviously the Close Encounter's Blu ray has better picture than the Star Wars DVD!

But the Star Wars DVD has way better picture than the Close Encounter's DVD(which was made in 2001 and is afflicted by the same "noise" problems as the Phantom Menace)!

adywan said:

danny_boy said:

 

Just picked up the Blu ray set today.

I watched a New Hope first.

And it's hands down by far and away the best it has ever looked on home video.

I also have Blu rays for Close Encounters, A Bridge Too Far, Saturday Night Fever,The Deep  and Smoky and the Bandit which are other films from 77'.

And this transfer for A New Hope blows each and every one of those away.

There is no way that you can say that the OT transfers blow the Close Encounters transfer away. Close Encounters has natural grain that hasn't been digitally scrubbed away, while the OT transfers grain is almost scrubbed out of existence and Lowrey's algorithm has the typical static grain plaguing the trilogy. And Close Encounters doesn't have the digital smearing that the OT does either. Colours in Close encounters looks the same as it always has done, yet the OT no longer resembles how the films ever looked. The OT has also had some extra sharpening added to it which is quite noticeable in parts

EDIT, i see that you added "in your opinion" after i typed this.

To be fair the optical composites in CEOT3K have not been digitally recomposited as they have in Star Wars.

So whenever one of those optical scenes kick in(e.g when the alien ships pass through the highway toll at night) the increase in grain and dirt,aswell as the generation loss  is immedietly apparent(even though they were composited using 65mm templates)----which is fine---that is the way the film always looked.

TK-949 said:

Ady: Do the Blu-Rays have burnt in subtitles for Greedo and Jabba?

I would like to know this aswell. And are the music, effects and dialogue in different channels?

TK-949 said:

Ady: Do the Blu-Rays have burnt in subtitles for Greedo and Jabba?

No, they don't

Alexrd said:

TK-949 said:

Ady: Do the Blu-Rays have burnt in subtitles for Greedo and Jabba?

I would like to know this aswell. And are the music, effects and dialogue in different channels?

The music is still mixed in with the centre channel dialogue and effects

adywan said:

The music is still mixed in with the centre channel dialogue and effects

Too bad. Thanks anyway.

Diego said:

From what I've seen, TPM looks fantastic, Star Wars looks about the same as the DVD (well a bit better since it's a blu ray) although I'd say the blacks might be even worse. Jedi looks awful, I don't know if anyone has mentioned (this topic has become too long to keep track of everything) but there's a part in Endor that looks particularly bad, like it's blurry or something.

yeh, i mentioned that. It's a problem with the 2004 transfer as there is no sharpness/ clarity drop on any version before that. It's as if the scan went out of focus for a whole section.