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Post #534536

Author
Sepharih
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The ANH:SE Redux Ideas thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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Date created
10-Sep-2011, 9:21 PM

mrbenja0618 said:

At first I thought this idea was stupid no offense, but the more I contemplated it, it sounded more interesting to me. Is it wrong to cut the majority of the duel? If you can cut it in such a way where you still keep those lines, then you still maintain the emotion of the two meeting again... The more I think about this, it actually could make more sense... He's come to the understanding that fighting Vader himself isn't the answer. That's why he says what he says. Why fight at all if you're going to give yourself for the greater good. It could be said, and is probably true that he was waiting for the right moment.. The moment being when he knew Luke and the others were back on the ship...But why not cut to the chase?

I have to think about this.... With your permission, this might show up on my edit.

 

Absolutely no offense taken. The first time it entered my head I wrote it off pretty quick as a stupid thought as well. Then as I started thinking about it more and more.....and it actually started to make a bit of sense to me. Don't ever worry about asking permission from me for ideas though. I totally get asking permission for using someone's edit as a base for their own, but ideas and suggestions I figure are something that should be to promote discussion and inspiration. Any of my ideas are free game.

I think there definitely needs to be some VFX to make the scene work though. The biggest problem with this edit in terms of the technical aspect would probably be that it would look too much like Vader and Ben are just standing around with their sabers for 10 minutes not doing anything. You would need to edit it and paint out some shots to avoid this, as it would look rather silly.

Mithrandir said:

Given the fact that slight audio tweakes proved to work perfectly if done carefully, I guess you could replace the line 

"you can't win Darth" with "you won't win...darth"

Putting you won't win Darth gives a sense of plan to OB1's action; as someone said, he's already thought of a possible encounter with Anakin. And the pause before Darth would be just an idea to make the whole thing a little more ironic following Kenobi's prequel style, and a nice solution to the thing of Darth being Vader's first name. 

I see what you mean...but I don't know if its even necessary. Can't and won't both already imply a plan I think.

Also, I understand people who will disagree with this....but I would just remove “darth” entirely. Simply have him say “You can't win” and leave it at that. It changes the delivery I know.....but it just seems more straightforward to me.