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I find it humorous that there is a strong desire out there for George and ILM to tinker with the PT (yes, pioneering effects look very... pioneering.) All the while the endless tinkering with the OT is causing pandemonium across the internet.

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RE : Han and Leia scene:

They sound more like they have already been married and at it for a couple of years rather than having a little horseplay by the pool before diving in, even so much more realistic than any piece of dialogue in the PT (especially the Manikin/Pandabear stuff).

Thanks for posting that and thanks for posting the Theed model photo none, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before.

I'd dearly love the PT we all saw to be a practical joke by Lucas and that one day he will release the real PT and it's everything as good as what Kersh didn't use.

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ROFLRICK said:

I find it humorous that there is a strong desire out there for George and ILM to tinker with the PT (yes, pioneering effects look very... pioneering.) All the while the endless tinkering with the OT is causing pandemonium across the internet.

I forget where I said this originally but it seems worthy of a repeat.

I googled "prequeltrilogy.com" just now and got zero suitable hits.  I don't get it - you can't get the theatrical version of the prequels, right?  Why isn't everyone up in arms over that?

I mean, other than the fact that the prequels suck.

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none said:

Star Wars Blu-ray: First to feature THX Media Director

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41948/star-wars-blu-ray-thx-media-director

The forthcoming Star Wars Blu-rays will be the first discs to feature THX Media Director, the company's audio and video calibration metadata that tells compatible TVs, home cinema systems and projectors what settings to choose for an optimum theatre-style experience.

*OMIT*

Unfortunately, however, at present it is unlikely that you own a TV, AV amplifier or projector that can read the data. Compatible kit is not due until later this year, although major manufacturers do have products in the pipeline: "We've already announced deals with JVC, LG and Epson with their high-end projectors, and there's going to be more coming down the line," said Dean.

*OMIT*

Thanks for the info none. But how good is such a system if the content sucks? F*cked up colors stay f*cked up colors, it doesn't matter if your display device is calibrated manually or by this system.

I don't trust THX as product quality company anymore. I did in the past, but they did an awful job til this very day.

  • SW 1993 Definitive Collection - heavy DVNR
  • Titanic DVD - non anamorphic
  • Star Wars Ep 1 DVD - pink tint & EE
  • Star Wars 2004 OT DVDs - f*cked up colors, crushed blacks
  • Star Wars 1 Bluray - DNR & wax effect
  • Star Wars OT Bluray - f*cked up colors, crushed blacks again
  • Star Wars 6 Bluray - for ~30min the picture is out of focus and looks like a SD-upscale
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Oh, the hilarity! I'm going to reserve all judgement for the evening after my Saga viewing.

EDIT: This was meant to be in reply to Frink... I really ought to learn how to use these forums.

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Episode 3 1080p CHD release - quick check:

  • Vader scream is still there - unmodified
  • Yoda communes with Qui-Gon scene not in the movie

 

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budwhite said:

The earlier TPM shots must be taken from bad rips. This is suppose to be from the real BD and it looks kinda good me thinks. The pic with the kid has some excellent detail.

 

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5184/thephantommenace3.png

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2918/thephantommenace2.png

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8075/thephantommenace1.png

OK, those look awesome. I really hope this is what the whole transfer looks like and the others were just a bad rip.

Oh, and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3o_Ax6MIkU&feature=related

In a way, it works better that what LFL did, it makes him look intentionally creepy, while in the BD version, the creepiness seems quite unintentional.

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ROFLRICK said:

I find it humorous that there is a strong desire out there for George and ILM to tinker with the PT (yes, pioneering effects look very... pioneering.) All the while the endless tinkering with the OT is causing pandemonium across the internet.

Hey.  Just so we're clear, I hate that he's fucking around with the prequels as well.  I'm not even terribly fond of them, but it pisses me off that he won't leave them alone.  I want theatrical releases of all of them, and none of the prequels have even managed to make it on DVD untampered with.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Amazon's blu ray reviews - now there are more than three times as many 1* reviews as there are 5* reviews.  In fact, of the 810 reviews, 68% of them are now 1*.  I don't know if LFL can coerce enough employees to write favorable reviews to counter popular opinion. It is so heartwarming to see that we're not alone, and we're not crazy.

While I agree that Amazon should revamp their review process (heck, they've lumped the OT BD reviews together with the DVD reviews!), I think this is a special case.  Lucas treats his films differently than every other person on the planet, and extraordinary situations require extraordinary response. This is the one case I can think of where pre-emptive action is called for if there is to be any chance of turning this titanic around.

And, on a more narcissistic note, of the 810 reviews, mine has crawled it's way up to #3.

"Close the blast doors!"
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This whole mess feels insane. I've gone through so many stages of Star Wars grief, I don't know what to do anymore! Stage one: encouraged optimism. Stage two: blissfully ignorant excitement. Stage three: sudden shock and horror. Stage four: prickly malaise.

My wife just sent me this link. The bad-Lucas-press wagon hasn't stopped rolling yet. I don't have anything against the guy, I just feel a confounded confusion about the man. If true, though, then this seems to prove what a lof of other folks here have been saying for years:

Link to original article

The geeks eventually got their face time with Lucas and I want to stress how respectful these guys were, and that they paid a lot of money for face time with Lucas. This was not a surprise interaction; Lucas came to this event knowing he’d be expected to mingle with the peons. I don’t advocate bugging celebrities in their daily lives, but this was a professional event designed to encourage these interactions. The guys were not out of bounds. They started by telling Lucas that they loved him/the movies/grew up watching them. Then they very politely asked why he wouldn’t make the original versions of the movies available on DVD/Blu-Ray. They stressed that they don’t mind the retroactive edits (doubtful, but they were being nice), they just wanted good digital copies of the original cuts, too. Lucas’s response? An eyeroll and a huffy, “Grow up. These are my movies, not yours.”

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rpvee said:

TK-949 said:

Obi-Wan's new scream is okay. Just the environment needs to be updated: Click

That was GREAT! lol

 I love it too !

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Lestrade said:

Link to original article

The geeks eventually got their face time with Lucas and I want to stress how respectful these guys were, and that they paid a lot of money for face time with Lucas. This was not a surprise interaction; Lucas came to this event knowing he’d be expected to mingle with the peons. I don’t advocate bugging celebrities in their daily lives, but this was a professional event designed to encourage these interactions. The guys were not out of bounds. They started by telling Lucas that they loved him/the movies/grew up watching them. Then they very politely asked why he wouldn’t make the original versions of the movies available on DVD/Blu-Ray. They stressed that they don’t mind the retroactive edits (doubtful, but they were being nice), they just wanted good digital copies of the original cuts, too. Lucas’s response? An eyeroll and a huffy, “Grow up. These are my movies, not yours.”

"Grow up"?  Geez, what a class act, Lucas, especially when your behavior is nothing short of, "If you don't like the way I play the game, I'm taking your football and puncturing a hole in it... and then encouraging you to pay for the deflated football."

I would like to read that article, though, but your link is just a broken link to something in this thread.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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TPM blu-ray shots look awful. Sharp, yes, but waxy and fake. Seeing it in motion will be much different, but from the still shots CGI Yoda looks more like an oil painting.

Wait, why do I care about the prequels? I guess I just need something Lucas-related to criticize...

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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Harmy said:

budwhite said:

The earlier TPM shots must be taken from bad rips. This is suppose to be from the real BD and it looks kinda good me thinks. The pic with the kid has some excellent detail.

 

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5184/thephantommenace3.png

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2918/thephantommenace2.png

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8075/thephantommenace1.png

OK, those look awesome. I really hope this is what the whole transfer looks like and the others were just a bad rip.

Agreed 100%, here's hoping that those pics are indeed from the real BD.

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R2D2 said:

Episode 3 1080p CHD release - quick check:

  • Vader scream is still there - unmodified
  • Yoda communes with Qui-Gon scene not in the movie

 

If I recall correctly, that scene is included in EP3's Deleted Scenes instead.
(thank god, if you ask me....) 

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Gaffer Tape said:

I would like to read that article, though, but your link is just a broken link to something in this thread.

Oh, sorry! I've fixed the link.

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ROFLRICK said:

I find it humorous that there is a strong desire out there for George and ILM to tinker with the PT (yes, pioneering effects look very... pioneering.) All the while the endless tinkering with the OT is causing pandemonium across the internet.

 I don't speak for everyone, but I think a wide consensus here is that all the changes Lucas wants to do would be nifty if he'd just release the OUT.

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does anyone know the situation with the blu-ray sound channels? i believe clone wars blu-ray had an independent channel for speech and some SFX.

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I take back everything I said about this new digi-Yoda.

In motion it's even crappier than the original puppet.

It really looks like CGI had moved backwards since 1999 in those sequences.

The shape is more Yodaish but it moves like they aren't paying the animator enough.

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Bingowings said:

I take back everything I said about this new digi-Yoda.

In motion it's even crappier than the original puppet.

It really looks like CGI had moved backwards since 1999 in those sequences.

The shape is more Yodaish but it moves like they aren't paying the animator enough.

That first shot of that video seemed odd to me for some reason, like there was something a little "off" with Yoda in contrast to his later scenes of the video, so I went back and checked my dvd copy of TPM for reference.... and I was right:

They did not alter the original CG Yoda model in that first shot to match the new CG Yoda model of the later scenes. Lucas, you lazy fu........
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Lestrade said:

This whole mess feels insane. I've gone through so many stages of Star Wars grief, I don't know what to do anymore! Stage one: encouraged optimism. Stage two: blissfully ignorant excitement. Stage three: sudden shock and horror. Stage four: prickly malaise.

My wife just sent me this link. The bad-Lucas-press wagon hasn't stopped rolling yet. I don't have anything against the guy, I just feel a confounded confusion about the man. If true, though, then this seems to prove what a lof of other folks here have been saying for years:

Link to original article

The geeks eventually got their face time with Lucas and I want to stress how respectful these guys were, and that they paid a lot of money for face time with Lucas. This was not a surprise interaction; Lucas came to this event knowing he’d be expected to mingle with the peons. I don’t advocate bugging celebrities in their daily lives, but this was a professional event designed to encourage these interactions. The guys were not out of bounds. They started by telling Lucas that they loved him/the movies/grew up watching them. Then they very politely asked why he wouldn’t make the original versions of the movies available on DVD/Blu-Ray. They stressed that they don’t mind the retroactive edits (doubtful, but they were being nice), they just wanted good digital copies of the original cuts, too. Lucas’s response? An eyeroll and a huffy, “Grow up. These are my movies, not yours.”

The douchebaggery continues.