dark_jedi said: OK, but that is how YOU took it, I did not, so that makes me wrong and you right? or the other way around? no it doesn't, we perceive things the way we do, and that is how I took it.

I can't say whether you are wrong or right. What I do say is that you act very defensively because of what you perceive to be a criticism.

and how many times do we see new members come in here and start talking all this crazy idea stuff with monster super duper hi tech LD players and such, and then just disappear?

We see this very often indeed and you might well be right about the outcome of this project, but we have no way of knowing this at the start. New people need encouragement. If you perceive remarks such as XO 1138's remarks about upscaling to be veiled criticism of your work, then imagine how new people feel when you start to post the way you do in their threads when they have just begun their projects and don't know anyone here.

Ultimately, I don't care whether the quality of new LD transfers will be better than anything so far released or not. People might still get something out of making them and watching them because not everyone is looking for the same thing. From the perspective of quality, the Puggo Grande could be considered a waste of time because the image quality is far worse than any GOUT-sourced project or LD project for that matter; but the fact is that I don't care, because I enjoyed Puggo's work immensely and found it thrilling to watch a 16mm transfer regardless of image quality. His Puggo Grande is one of my favorite preservations and I'm looking forward to his ESB more even than Adywan's ESB Revisited.