'Legacy' by X0-1138 - a fake and trolling 'project' — Page 4

LOL, like I said, some here have HUGE boners over these laserdiscs still, and it cracks me up, and to think the X0 is SO great is funny to, I looked at the raw captures of Star wars(I think Zion is the one that upped it) and it is NO different than my raw capture after IVTC from my Pioneer Elite CLD-79, but some just think they are going to make a "Grail" from this, well that is cool, I CAN'T wait to see a laserdisc capture masterfully upscaled to 1080p with this so called, black magic, gray magic, white magic process, too funny, my opinion only, well it seems I am not alone in it.

Laserdiscs had their purpose a few years ago, now they serve NO purpose but for audio, or special features, or maybe a scene or two, or color examples, etc. these just look like pure SHIT on nowaday systems, and if you don't think so, then YOU don't have a nowaday HDTV setup, unless it is in the 20 inch or smaller range.

Yeah maybe I am over excited about the JSC. I simply like it for the nostalgia factor. The color timing of it is exactly how the first unaltered Star Wars VHS I found looks like, so I do appreciate watching it, if only to feel younger again, astounded by how much better the movie is without CGI. This is why I didn't think color correction was a good idea.

Of course, I'll say it now and I'll say it again. For casual viewing (seeing detail and having a film-like experience), Dark Jedi's Project Blu is the best. :-D

It's all good Aluminum Falcon, I have just spent many years messing with LD's and I personally think there time is over, there is NO more that can be squeezed out of them, believe me I know, that is why I am not sure how the hell I am going to do a 1997 Special Edition Trilogy BD25 Set yet, because my partner and I would LOVE to create yet another BD companion Set to the upcoming Saga Set this Sept. how cool would that be to have the UOT and the 97 SE as bonus BD's? well I am half way there.

skyjedi2005 said:

dark_jedi said:

LOL, like I said, some here have HUGE boners over these laserdiscs still, and it cracks me up, and to think the X0 is SO great is funny to, I looked at the raw captures of Star wars(I think Zion is the one that upped it) and it is NO different than my raw capture after IVTC from my Pioneer Elite CLD-79, but some just think they are going to make a "Grail" from this, well that is cool, I CAN'T wait to see a laserdisc capture masterfully upscaled to 1080p with this so called, black magic, gray magic, white magic process, too funny, my opinion only, well it seems I am not alone in it.

Laserdiscs had their purpose a few years ago, now they serve NO purpose but for audio, or special features, or maybe a scene or two, or color examples, etc. these just look like pure SHIT on nowaday systems, and if you don't think so, then YOU don't have a nowaday HDTV setup, unless it is in the 20 inch or smaller range.

Laserdisc still serves a purpose it is the only place outside of vhs you can watch the original American Graffiti or THX 1138, and we all know all the gout was a laserdisc master ported over.

Lucas is probably the only person i know of outside of Disney who keeps their classics altered without offering choice.

Yeah it does, like I said above, to people that do NOT have a nowaday HDTV setup these and VHS tapes are just fine, but you get into a large 65" HDTV and setups like that and these look like SHIT! plain and simple, very, very hard to watch.

and so what, the opening of American Graffiti is different, big deal, the Blu-ray MOPS the floor with the LD and VHS in video and audio, sorry, and THX-1138, this is one of the strangest, most boring movies I have every seen, but looking at the screens here at this site, again, the Blu-ray mops the floor with them screens no doubt about it, no offense to all involved but it is fact.

Sky you must still have an old picture tube TV and only listening to the audio out of the TV, because if all these LD's look great to you, more power to you I guess, but most are WAY past that now, Home Theater has come a very long way I tell you.

dark_jedi said:

how cool would that be to have the UOT and the 97 SE as bonus BD's? well I am half way there.

Most definitely epic. I grew up with that version too and considering the work with the GOUT, this too will look excellent. By the way, did you see this? Msycamore said that there was smearing on the 97 LD too. As an owner of two '97 LD sets, I didn't see any on either of my copies... AFAIK, the '97 LD was reference quality as far as LDs go.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

dark_jedi said:

how cool would that be to have the UOT and the 97 SE as bonus BD's? well I am half way there.

Most definitely epic. I grew up with that version too and considering the work with the GOUT, this too will look excellent. By the way, did you see this? Msycamore said that there was smearing on the 97 LD too. As an owner of two '97 LD sets, I didn't see any on either of my copies... AFAIK, the '97 LD was reference quality as far as LDs go.

2 Sets? LOL why 2? and I am not going to call him a liar, because he in fact is one of those I mention about having a HUGE boner for LD's LOL, man does he LOVE his laserdiscs, but I have not seen this either, I will take a look again, maybe his LD has laser rot or something.

I just checked my LD of the 97 SE ANH, I went to the scene where there was real bad Ben smear(on the HD Broadcasts) and my LD shows none of this, so who knows, he must have a different version than us.

dark_jedi said:

2 Sets? LOL why 2?

Oh ha... I bought one a few years ago for $20, a pretty good price, but recently I found an extremely nice conditioned one in a garage sale for only $2! I couldn't pass it up, as the outer box was in better condition than my first.

Of course SD laserdiscs are going to look like crap on a giant screen. The only reason for upscaling them is to bypass the terrible scalers found on many flat-panel TV's which turn SD content into a blocky mess.

We're doing this for the image content, not the image quality. Blending two or more discs won't perform miracles, but it could produce a result better than any one disc, maybe even better than the '97 SE or GOUT (with much stress on the "maybe" part).

well, all I am saying is I can't wait to see a "masterfully" upscaled 1080p video sample processed through whatever colored magic you use from a laserdisc capture, Thanks.

@X0-1138

IMO, you should take your time. Don't rush. Make one capture. Look at it. See if you like it. If you don't, then make more if you feel like it. The worst thing you can do is burn yourself out before you've started.

Good luck.

dark_jedi said:

well, all I am saying is I can't wait to see a "masterfully" upscaled 1080p video sample processed through whatever colored magic you use from a laserdisc capture, Thanks.

Do you have to post this sort of remark -- often multiple times --  in almost every OT laserdisc project thread that starts up?  I understand that you find it amusing that some of us are still interested in laserdiscs, but I don't see what you gain by making these comments that can only serve to discourage other people from completing their projects.  Moreover, you appear to me to react strongly to any perceived criticism of your projects.

I believe that we are all aware of the limitations of laserdiscs.  While they don't look brilliant on a big modern HDTV, they don't look at all bad, in my opinion, and GOUT-sourced projects -- even those that use g-force's excellent scripts -- have their own problems and don't look brilliant either, so it's simply a matter of preference.

Chewtobacca said:

dark_jedi said:

well, all I am saying is I can't wait to see a "masterfully" upscaled 1080p video sample processed through whatever colored magic you use from a laserdisc capture, Thanks.

Do you have to post this sort of remark -- often multiple times --  in almost every OT laserdisc project thread that starts up?  I understand that you find it amusing that some of us are still interested in laserdiscs, but I don't see what you gain by making these comments that can only serve to discourage other people from completing their projects.  Moreover, you appear to me to react strongly to any perceived criticism of your projects.

I believe that we are all aware of the limitations of laserdiscs.  While they don't look brilliant on a big modern HDTV, they don't look at all bad, in my opinion, and GOUT-sourced projects -- even those that use g-force's excellent scripts -- have their own problems and don't look brilliant either, so it's simply a matter of preference.

Do I have to post this remark, yes I do, I am using his own words LOL, and yes I do find it VERY amusing.

Criticism to my projects LOL, if people that have them like them GREAT! if they don't GREAT! I make these mostly for myself and close Friends, and then I share if I want to, so you have NO idea WTF you are talking about, if you don't like them, please go post about it and don't waste your time downloading them, that would be fine by me, but please share your thoughts to let others know how you feel, maybe you can persuade them how bad they really are.

NO, I don't think they are aware of the limitations of LD, or you would see that making a 1080p laserdisc cap is not going to work, but hey who knows right.

WE ALL know that the 06 DVD's have limitations, HELL I even add that in my thread on ALL the projects I have done, no one is saying anything different, but these do look waaay better than ALL the damn LD screens I have been seeing, I will take the 06 DVD's(as is) over any of these LD caps samples I have seen to date by a long shot.

SO bring on Guys, I sincerely cannot wait to see a sample video clip of what this will look like, keep up the great work by all means, and good luck.

@ msycamore, NO I did like LD's a long time ago, and working with the 06 DVD's is NOT working with the LD's, but you keep telling yourself it is the same, it is a shame that you think it is LOL, and I am not working with LD's, I checked to see if I can see what your "bionic" eyes can see, and a couple of us did not, so what, are we bad now because of it? but nice try to make it look like I am still onto the LD's though, very damn cool of you.

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X0-1138 said:

Dark Jedi, go suck a few cocks you fucking massively late-stage abortion.

LOL, you just got yourself banned\suspended or warned, nice way to cancel the project though, pretty cool.

^^^ This is the kind of aggressive response that doesn't help anyone.

 

Criticism to my projects LOL, if people that have them like them GREAT! if they don't GREAT! I make these mostly for myself and close Friends, and then I share if I want to, so you have NO idea WTF you are talking about, if you don't like them, please go post about it and don't waste your time downloading them, that would be fine by me, but please share your thoughts to let others know how you feel, maybe you can persuade them how bad they really are.

I don't think they are bad at all, so I have no desire to convince other people of anything.  I simply wonder why you post denigrating remarks in other people's project threads.

NO, I don't think they are aware of the limitations of LD, or you would see that making a 1080p laserdisc cap is not going to work, but hey who knows right.

I meant limitations in the sources and actually agree that upscaling this to 1080p is a waste of time, but others have already tried to convince the OP that something like 720p would be better, unsuccessfully.  I also think that it is waste of time to encode Blu-rays from the GOUT, but other people disagree, so the last thing I would wish to do is go to post in your thread and convince other people of my own preferences, which is why I wonder why you seem to feel the need to do so.

EDIT:  X0-1138, that kind of language isn't necessary and is not going to help you.  I support your project and understand why you might be angry, but I suggest you edit your post and apologize for the language.

Interesting how quickly this thread turned into a trainwreck.

And it still seems to be unclear, if the project is still on, canceled, or just some overambitious hoax...

Although I don't endorse dark_jedi's tone (come on, "LOL"? Really?), I agree that X0-1138 does make some ridiculous promises, which make the whole project appear like nothing more than hot air (or megalomania). Be my guest to prove me wrong :)

Still, I'd suggest you'll leave the bigger plans for later, and just start with the first step of doing some nice transfers.

Chewtobacca said:

^^^ This is the kind of aggressive response that doesn't help anyone.

 

Criticism to my projects LOL, if people that have them like them GREAT! if they don't GREAT! I make these mostly for myself and close Friends, and then I share if I want to, so you have NO idea WTF you are talking about, if you don't like them, please go post about it and don't waste your time downloading them, that would be fine by me, but please share your thoughts to let others know how you feel, maybe you can persuade them how bad they really are.

I don't think they are bad at all, so I have no desire to convince other people of anything.  I simply wonder why you post denigrating remarks in other people's project threads.

NO, I don't think they are aware of the limitations of LD, or you would see that making a 1080p laserdisc cap is not going to work, but hey who knows right.

I meant limitations in the sources and actually agree that upscaling this to 1080p is a waste of time, but others have already tried to convince the OP that something like 720p would be better, unsuccessfully.  I also think that it is waste of time to encode Blu-rays from the GOUT, but other people disagree, so the last thing I would wish to do is go to post in your thread and convince other people of my own preferences, which is why I wonder why you seem to feel the need to do so.

My aggressive response? I called NOONE any names LOL, and I still won't, but I find his reaction very funny.

By all means go ahead, do you need a link to my thread? it really does not matter, if that is how you feel, make it known, the more thoughts the merrier, plus it will give me more to read, OH, and I have said 100 times, it is NOT about just the video, it is also about having ALL the audio files on 1 disc in ALL formats.

I find it funny how I use HIS own words on him, but then I get crap for it LMAO! but where are ALL the original X0 loyalists when he flat out called it a "hoax"? now this is very funny to, where is the shit storm of reactions for spouting that?

Also some of his wording I found just a little insulting, that is why I used them, like "masterfully", what so anyone else here that has done upscales are wrong, or not right, like his supposed method is the right way, so read into my responses anyway you want.

LOL, it doesn't matter if he edits it now, why do you think I quoted it right away?