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The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations — Page 10

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I've gotten snagged in a few things, I *do* have caps but I never released them... and got on a bunch of other projects, had a few HD crashes, but I don't drop my projects, just put them on hiatus until I can really do them... ugh, hard drive capacity x.x

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Any updates on that 720p theatrical Beauty and the Beast?

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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I'm waiting for word on the BluRay.  If I'm right and the BD is equivalent to the second DVD issue, it may have at least some of the problems fixed (at least the Stuttering Beast and the missing credit in the OP have been restored on the second DVD), and be better than the ...ABC? rip we have now.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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I think drf may have finally found the Academy Lady.  I'm sending him my first capture but I'm making a few more captures to try to noise-average  (something I don't have a lot of expertise with).

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Didn't have a lot of luck.  It gave some bizarre chroma artifacting when I tried to ivtc the output.

I might need to install avisynth/vdub. (don't like to do that because it's non-native.)

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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@Molly - What have you been talking about for the last couple posts?

Dr. M

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There's two different versions of Lady and the Tramp that were shot in 1955.

Most editions, even 4:3, are of the scope (2.55:1) version; one release (the one the  screencaps come from) is from the actual "Academy" (1.37:1) version, and not a crop.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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I've watched both versions of LATT side by side, and there's really only a couple shots unique to the Academy version. (The titles and one shot of a handwritten note, IIRC.)

Things are being cropped as the animation drawn for Cinemascope was reshot with 1:37 in mind, but it's skillfully done and not obvious unless you've seen the widescreen version. It's weird that the Academy version has only ever been released on Laserdisc. Making a brand new pan and scan of the Cinemascope for DVD makes no sense.

Some screencaps showing the differences here.

http://animatedviews.com/2006/lady-and-the-tramp-50th-anniversary-platinum-edition/

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Where were you in '77?

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The shot of the three dogs is one of the comparison shots I used to identify it.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Are any of these preservations available? I'd really like to obtain laserdisc rips of the Disney animated features that are different on DVD, rather than have to blow a bunch of money on a player and actual LDs.

I love the way the colors on the laser versions looked - the DVD versions often have flattened contrast and just don't look "film" enough. I'd love to see the laserdisc rip of Beauty and the Beast, or the LD rip of Cinderella, etc., but I can only find dead torrents online...

-Jeffrey

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Mee too..I`m looking forward especially for the Lion King Laserdisc preservation for a long time..I dislike that changes on DVD versions, like "flashy" colours or credit or logo or something else.

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Is this only for Disney Animated films and not live-action? Only interested in Fantasia, Three Cabalerros and any which are uncensored. None from the newer Disney shill.

Fucking hated The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast.

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I've moved *TWICE* and had some technical difficulties.  Good hardware, nowhere to hook it up...yet. (PCI Express vidcap card in a quadcore with 8 GB RAM.  Needs a faster hard drive though.)  I'm gonna figure it out later.

My main machine got damaged, and I've only ever come on here from that one since I got it.  That's why I haven't been on.  Got bored, wondered what the status was on another project, and came back.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

I've moved *TWICE* and had some technical difficulties.  Good hardware, nowhere to hook it up...yet. (PCI Express vidcap card in a quadcore with 8 GB RAM.  Needs a faster hard drive though.)  I'm gonna figure it out later.

My main machine got damaged, and I've only ever come on here from that one since I got it.  That's why I haven't been on.  Got bored, wondered what the status was on another project, and came back.

Just build yourself a new computer if need be. Monoprice has cables on the cheap and very great quality.

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Uh, that's what that computer IS.  It's my other computer, the main one I use for day to day stuff... the case was already damaged, the front panel was hanging loose because otherwise I couldn't plug in a mic, the movers broke it off.

The capping computer is mostly brand new, built it there, couldn't use it because one of my roommates at that place kept shutting off the power on me!

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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For the record, the reason I brought up the cap box issue is a friend offered to help with video cleanup, but not if I handed him mpeg2 files...had to be losslessly capped.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

For the record, the reason I brought up the cap box issue is a friend offered to help with video cleanup, but not if I handed him mpeg2 files...had to be losslessly capped.

I believe you mean raw capture instead of reprocessed DNR MPEG2. Why not avi or wmv?

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It is AVI that I cap in (huffyuv video and pcm audio).

I refuse to use WMV for anything.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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You may want to look into Lagarith.  Seems to have a bit of an edge on HuffYUV.

Dr. M

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I've used both.  I can't remember which I was using for the last cap I did but I'm guessing it was the FFMPEG implementation of HuffYUV, because FFMPEG is fast even though it doesn't multithread.  Speed was essential - wanted the fewest bottlenecks possible.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

I've used both.  I can't remember which I was using for the last cap I did but I'm guessing it was the FFMPEG implementation of HuffYUV, because FFMPEG is fast even though it doesn't multithread.  Speed was essential - wanted the fewest bottlenecks possible.

Have you tried to use Ut Video codec?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143624

 

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Just wanted to thank everyone involved with this. I was using Lagarith to edit HD videos, but have now switched to UT.

I did a pretty extensive study of speed and video quality with Lagarith, Huffyuv, and UT, and while UT-RGB and Lagarith-RGB provide 100% identical output quality (confirmed with the MSU video quality measurement tool), the UT-RGB codec encodes to x264 at over twice the speed of the Lagarith codec on a Core i7 overclocked to 3.6GHz. I am getting 1080p encoding at well faster than realtime using this codec, something totally unthinkable with Lagarith or Huffyuv, with no quality hit. Thanks!!!
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I recommend you to test high compression mode instead of fast decode mode.
In my experience, fast decode mode slows more than High compression mode because the speed of HDD be a bottleneck when the resolution is larger than QCIF (176x144) :eek:
For uly0 of 720p, my Q9450 machine can be encoded/decoded with 72fps/148fps on high compression mode.
however, on fast decode mode, the speeds are down to 67fps/138fps.

 

 

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On the Star Wars preservations forum, a Dutch member named hiephoi said he has two X9 players, and he brought up the possibility of doing an X9 capture of the Lion King CAV edition, which made me consider the possibility of other X9 Disney captures.

Molly, think you could try to contact him and see if he'd like to be part of this project?

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Close, but not correct. It's true that hiephoi told about his X9 players. But I was the guy (I am also Dutch) who began about the Lion King. It would be great to have that movie as X9 capture.

A new release of Star Wars is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

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It is NTSC.

A new release of Star Wars is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.