'Legacy' by X0-1138 - a fake and trolling 'project' — Page 2

Asaki said:

X0-1138 said:
There's a possibility that I may remove 'Episode IV - A NEW HOPE' from the beginning of the crawl but I must stress, there shall be NO alterations other than the above mentioned.

 I don't know why the 80s crawl bothers so many people. I know it's about preservation, but every time I see it without the "New Hope", it always looks so naked to me (and both crawls are proper theatrical crawls, anyway). Different strokes, I suppose.

Yep, different strokes.  The only thing that I don't like about Arnie.d's V8 is that it has "Episode IV" in the crawl, and I want it to say simply "Star Wars, so I really like this idea.

Yes, I have a refurbished, cleaned, tweaked and near-faultless X0 to transfer from.

Glad you decided to transfer the JSC, as others have the GOUT/Def. Collection handled already. It was already very impressive how nice the V8 transfer looked so with an X0...

You mentioned you are doing color correction. How far are you going with that? The JSC has a unique color palette. Even though it is not theatrically accurate it is interesting. For example, the binary sunset looks unique without some tints...

If you eventually need one, I'd be willing to be a tester of this, BTW.

I'd like to obtain accurate colour information about the 'first night' prints of each film and try to match them as closely as possible.

Yes this is a distinct possibility. Seamless transitions will allow me to have both theatrical and 'kitchen sink' editions within the same blu-ray disc and I may expand that to the title crawl.

The audio mix will be the closest as possible to the opening night prints.

I think the primary thing is to first preserve this LD edition as it is. Second, use it to create a presentation for those of us who love the movie in multiple ways. I love to watch the original 1977 with the mono soundtrack and the Episode IV way with the 95 Faces THX soundtrack. Some would like the 1977 stereo or the 1977 recreated 6-track. The rebellion collection version is a stellar example of what all to include. They have this all on one disc. It is perfect except for the horrible flaws in the GOUT dvd it is taken from.

As I mentioned on another thread, if you take a clean LD version, like this, and layer it (which requires some resizing) with the GOUT, you might be able to enhance the image to be far superior to the GOUT or any LD capture. I would love to see someone try it.

I intend to upscale from the beginning because it will give me a bigger canvas to work from

Having looked at the 'black magic' X0 project, I'm officially disbanding this project.

http://savestarwars.com/images/x0speeder89.jpg

X0-1138 said:

Having looked at the 'black magic' X0 project, I'm officially disbanding this project.

http://savestarwars.com/images/x0speeder89.jpg

LOL, that didn't take long, but at least you told everyone and didn't just leave all your followers hanging LOL.

It's just AMAZING.

I could source every fine detail laserdisc version, redo the same work etc...

But is it truly worth it?

X0-1138 said:

It's just AMAZING.

I could source every fine detail laserdisc version, redo the same work etc...

But is it truly worth it?

Some here are fucking obsessed with laserdiscs, and I mean OBSESSED! so to a few, yes it might be worth it, but for some(myself in this group) no, and I say no because of the 1080p upscale, because to me(my opinion here) it would look like SHIT on a large screen HDTV.

I still give you credit though for telling everyone instead of just leaving it unknown.

The 1080p upscale was going to be 'masterfully' undertaken.

I was going to duplicate the workflow over two versions.

Original resolution and 1080p upscale, so that I wouldn't be downsampling from the 1080p version.

You were ALL going to be taken care of!

X0-1138 said:

The 1080p upscale was going to be 'masterfully' undertaken.

I was going to duplicate the workflow over two versions.

Original resolution and 1080p upscale, so that I wouldn't be downsampling from the 1080p version.

You were ALL going to be taken care of!

Please, I would really like to see a sample, can you provide a clip? I would love to see a laserdisc capture masterfully upscaled to 1080p, as I am SURE others here would to, you must have some real nice gear.

X0-1138 said: It's just AMAZING.

Are you disbanding your project because you think that the XO project was completed?  A raw capture was released, but nothing like what you see in that speeder shot.

EDIT:  bkev seems to have pointed this out first.

X0-1138 said:
There's a possibility that I may remove 'Episode IV - A NEW HOPE' from the beginning of the crawl

Please don't.  There isn't a good quality source for the 1981 crawl, and this would be the best we could possibly do.  (The 1997/2004/2011[?] crawl is not the same as the 1981 or 1977 crawls.)  Let the 1977 crawl stay on the GOUT.

--edit--

Wait, you're cancelling this project because you found out about a similar project that was started and never finished and will never see the light of day?!

I am in a position to 're-discover' the black magic process and I have a pretty good idea of how to not only achieve it, but improve upon it.

The work needed though...

Easily removed and I'd even render a new crawl using the original typesetting, colour, speed and movement of the '77 crawl.

But, of course, at that point we're getting into revisionism.

I don't understand either.  At first it seemed as if you were under the impression that the XO had been completed to the standard of the speeder shot and cancelled because of that, but now it seems that it's because you find the task daunting, which I can understand.

I was under the impression that a straight '93 or JSC transfer using an X0 player would be the grail.

But after seeing the black magic shot, I now know that a definitive laserdisc transfer would have to take in half a dozen laserdisc transfers and perhaps a factor of work more than I was prepared to undertake alone.

It's certainly possible, but I'd need a team of four and a year of solid, laser focused work.

I am considering it though, I promise.