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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Oh, about the whole "start reading true literature" thing, it was some sort of a joke I've made. Anything with more than 2 words is literature to me.


Sorry it didn't come off as a joke to me. Then again I am sure I have done that to other people before so whatever.
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Just saw the movie today. I just dont know. I liked the first one, the second was okay but this one was dragged out and extremely slow-moving. So much stuff was hard to understand and the movie seemed to not know where it was going. Sure the special effects were good, but so much stuff went over my head. Like these, for example:
1. If the dementors were out to get Harry (for some reason), why were they invited to stay around Hogwarts?
2. If that one teacher (who was also a werewolf) knew sirius Black, why did he tell Harry that Sirius wanted to kill him?
3. What the hell was that elk thing that Harry saw across the lake while the dementors were attacking? Even stranger is that is was explatined later in the film that it was himself saving himself!
Other things I didn't like:
1. Sirius black turned out to be GOOD!
2. Dumbledore was an alcoholic.
3. There wasn't enough quidditch.
Okay, there were a few things that I liked:
1. The opening scene. Hilarious!
2. The ending scene. I left the theater with a good feeling.
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1. Dementors don't target specific people; their goal is to suck the joy from a wizard or witch, which makes it easier to gain access to their souls (ultimate goal).
2. He hadn't seen Sirius for 12 years; as far as he was concerned, until he knew Pettigrew was alive, Black was guilty.
3. Harry's Patronus; were you paying ANY attention?

Next round:
1. I wouldn't necessarily define Black as good; against Voldemort, yes, but no saint.
2. If you've read the books, you'd realise that Hagrid is a bigger soak than Dumbledore.
3. Follows the pattern of the other films; 1 match per film.

Any questions?

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Answers:
1. Dementors don't target specific people; their goal is to suck the joy from a wizard or witch, which makes it easier to gain access to their souls (ultimate goal).
2. He hadn't seen Sirius for 12 years; as far as he was concerned, until he knew Pettigrew was alive, Black was guilty.
3. Harry's Patronus; were you paying ANY attention?

Next round:
1. I wouldn't necessarily define Black as good; against Voldemort, yes, but no saint.
2. If you've read the books, you'd realise that Hagrid is a bigger soak than Dumbledore.
3. Follows the pattern of the other films; 1 match per film.

Any questions?


Spoiler warning for fifth book. Sirius is one of my favorite characters. He is basically the closest thing Harry has to a father. Which is why his death in the fifth book is so tragic. And yes the dementors were never after Harry. At least not in the third book.
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Originally posted by: jimbo

Sorry it didn't come off as a joke to me. Then again I am sure I have done that to other people before so whatever.


Well, I used the blinking eye in order to make it clear that it was a joke... See? Blinking eye...
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Originally posted by: Duke Groundrunner
Just saw the movie today. I just dont know. I liked the first one, the second was okay but this one was dragged out and extremely slow-moving. So much stuff was hard to understand and the movie seemed to not know where it was going. Sure the special effects were good, but so much stuff went over my head. Like these, for example:
1. If the dementors were out to get Harry (for some reason), why were they invited to stay around Hogwarts?
2. If that one teacher (who was also a werewolf) knew sirius Black, why did he tell Harry that Sirius wanted to kill him?
3. What the hell was that elk thing that Harry saw across the lake while the dementors were attacking? Even stranger is that is was explatined later in the film that it was himself saving himself!
Other things I didn't like:
1. Sirius black turned out to be GOOD!
2. Dumbledore was an alcoholic.
3. There wasn't enough quidditch.
Okay, there were a few things that I liked:
1. The opening scene. Hilarious!
2. The ending scene. I left the theater with a good feeling.


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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Answers:
1. Dementors don't target specific people; their goal is to suck the joy from a wizard or witch, which makes it easier to gain access to their souls (ultimate goal).
2. He hadn't seen Sirius for 12 years; as far as he was concerned, until he knew Pettigrew was alive, Black was guilty.
3. Harry's Patronus; were you paying ANY attention?

Next round:
1. I wouldn't necessarily define Black as good; against Voldemort, yes, but no saint.
2. If you've read the books, you'd realise that Hagrid is a bigger soak than Dumbledore.
3. Follows the pattern of the other films; 1 match per film.

Any questions?


1. Okay, if the dementors suck the souls out of people, WHY WERE THEY STILL INVITED TO STAY AROUND HOGWARTS?
2. It was still dumb that Pettigrew was Ron's rat all along.
3. Yes, I was paying attention (though it was hard to). If it was his Patronus, why did he say he saw his FATHER? Even so, I thought the Patronus he used earlier in the film to defeat the dementor was the memory of his parents talking to him.

Next round:
1. It just annoyed me because it was so random at that point to completely switch his character around.
2. I've never read the books.
3. It would be nice for that one match to be a bit longer.

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I FOUND THIS ON THE IMDB TRIVIA ITS QUITE INTRESTING
Director Cuaron coached Daniel Radcliffe in one scene where the latter had to act awed: "Pretend you're seeing Cameron Diaz in a G-string". It worked.
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I saw that movie too and I think that it is far better han the other two. And for all those who bitch about the differences: MOVIES ARE NOT BOOKS! They are a totally different media and a good adaptation should take advantage of the possibilities offered by movies instead of sticking religiously to the book. that would be only a possibility to cash in on the popularity of the novels. In this instance the book and the movie complement each other. The novel gives the background and the film gives the images and expresses the story through them. I just loved the visuals of Cuaron's movie and it's really a pity that he doesn't direct part 4. i think he would handle the death really well. but maybe Newell will do fine too.
Only thing I missed is the explanation of what happened the night Harry's parents died. That is for me the emotional highlight of the book and so it's really impoartant, also for illustrating the character's past.
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Duke I am going to be frank. Your complaints about the movie are just stupid. You clearly do not understand the Potter universe.
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Originally posted by: Duke Groundrunner
1. Okay, if the dementors suck the souls out of people, WHY WERE THEY STILL INVITED TO STAY AROUND HOGWARTS?
2. It was still dumb that Pettigrew was Ron's rat all along.
3. Yes, I was paying attention (though it was hard to). If it was his Patronus, why did he say he saw his FATHER? Even so, I thought the Patronus he used earlier in the film to defeat the dementor was the memory of his parents talking to him.

Next round:
1. It just annoyed me because it was so random at that point to completely switch his character around.
2. I've never read the books.
3. It would be nice for that one match to be a bit longer.


First Round:
1. They weren't invited. They were sent there by the Ministry of Magic to hunt down Black. Dumbledore even said he had no control over their presence.
2. I loved it. Plus, what better way to hide and still keep close to the pulse of all that is happening in the magic world?
3. Harry wouldn't think it was actually himself across the lake. So when he saw someone that he briefly thought looked like himself, he assumed the family resemblance was because it was his father. Just as a note, there are four names that are on that Marauder's Map. They are Padfoot, Wormtail, Moony, and Prongs. They represent the four friends and refer to their alter identities once they transform to their animal selves... Wormtail is Pettigrew b/c he is a rat with the worm-looking tail; Padfoot is Sirius Black because he becomes a dog with the pad feet that dogs have; Moony is Professor Lupin because he becomes a wolf under the moonlight (as a side note, Lupin is similar in nature to the species name for a wolf which is "lupus"); and Prongs is Harry's father because his patronus, like Harry's, is a buck with the pronged antlers.

Second Round:
1 and 2 are just notes so I'll ignore.
3. I would have liked to have seen more Quidditch too because Cuaron is the only director that made the Quidditch match look realistic.
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All well said, Bossk. Not much I can add here. Chris Columbus did make the Quidditch matches look fairly fake, didn't he? Probably one of the reasons I didn't pick up the books any sooner than I did. The movies put me off, and yet they also made me realize that the series was worth looking into after all. Strange contridiction.
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It was definitely the best of the three so far, in my opinion.
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All well said, Bossk. Not much I can add here. Chris Columbus did make the Quidditch matches look fairly fake, didn't he? Probably one of the reasons I didn't pick up the books any sooner than I did. The movies put me off, and yet they also made me realize that the series was worth looking into after all. Strange contridiction.


Quidditich looked fine in the first two movies.
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Quidditch looked like a videogame in the first 2 films, and I don't mean that as a compliment. Here, it wasn't prominently featured, but because of Cuaron's decision to follow the rules of special effects i.e. when something looks fake, shoot it in the dark so no one can tell, it looked much better this time around. I agree with Galahad; definitely the best of the three so far. If you want a slavish cramming of as many events from the novels as possible into the film, stick with the first two; if you want to see an actual Harry Potter movie, with atmosphere and artistry (as well as much better acting), go with this one.

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I'm glad to see we share our look at HP3, Gundark.
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But of course.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Quidditch looked like a videogame in the first 2 films, and I don't mean that as a compliment. Here, it wasn't prominently featured, but because of Cuaron's decision to follow the rules of special effects i.e. when something looks fake, shoot it in the dark so no one can tell, it looked much better this time around. I agree with Galahad; definitely the best of the three so far. If you want a slavish cramming of as many events from the novels as possible into the film, stick with the first two; if you want to see an actual Harry Potter movie, with atmosphere and artistry (as well as much better acting), go with this one.


I believe hiding effects in the dark is a stupid and cheap stratagy.
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But isn't it better than the Quidditch matches looking like cheap CGI shit? Besides the shadows and the rain in the HP3 Quidditch match fits the mood of the rest of the movie. So, the purpose of it is dual in nature.
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I thought the Quitch matches in the first two movies was very realsitic.
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Not even close. Everything was so out of proportion and fake looking. When the camera was in the stands looking at the players, they looked horribly hokey. When the camera was in the sky showing the stands, you could see it was blatant CGI. No attempt was made to make it look realistic because they wanted to get the movie out on time. The Quidditch matches are one of the major reasons I dislike the first two movies so much. At least, compared to the third one.

I thought you were a proponent of good CGI, Jimbo. These are two examples of CGI at their worst. Okay, maybe not as bad as Deep Blue Sea, but still and all the same.
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Okay, maybe not as bad as Deep Blue Sea, but still and all the same.


Deep Blue Sea...haha...hearing that title always makes me think about Dave Chappelle's Samuel Jackson Beer commercial...

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