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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 223

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Angel wrote: Its interesting that only the wicket/willow ewok got the eye treatment and not in all shots(even close ups) Some look good and some others dont.

How about the ewok who steals the speeder bike, he's got some close ups.  or how about the baby ewok shot, it's a big close up?  Or one of the Logray, Chief Chirpa shots, the shot where they've all got their spears pointed at them?

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I've seen 2 different baby ewoks with new eyes blinking

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Some changes discussion on mf.com

User897 said:

Changes noticed:

01. Escape pod launcher lights now have heat trails over them, making them flicker.
02. Escape pod hatch is no longer blue.
03. More moisture vaporators added.
04. Leia hologram now looks more blue and prequelish.
05. Treadwell droid behind Uncle Owen while talking at the table (Was this there before?).
06. Binary sunset still has the passing clouds added.
07. The area beneath the Landspeeder actually looks GOOD.
08. As pointed out by Adywan, there are now rocks in front of R2 in his hiding spot in the canyon.
09. If you thought the DVD version of Obi-Wan's Krayt Dragon roar was hideous, keep your thumb on the Mute button. That's right. It's WORSE now.
10. The new CG rocks that covered R2 are magically gone after he comes out of hiding.
11. 2004 detention center hallway still there and actually looks good.
12. Obi-Wan/Vader duel on Death Star lightsaber blades are bright and more consistent, though Vader's is a bit pink in some of the shots.
13. Millennium Falcon vs. Sentry TIE's, the shot that was revealed to us by LFL at the press event with the partial laser bolt IS FIXED in this MKV.
14. Brass can now be heard during X-Wing dive to the Death Star.
15. The glitch under Vader's TIE and his escorts after "Three marks at two-ten!" has been fixed.
16. Energy wave sound from Death Star explosion sounds more balanced.
17. Vader's breath sound can be heard when his TIE is spinning, but is very faint.

10 remind me of the windows in cloud city.

13 and 15 are supposed known fixes from the press event, I doubt they're fake.

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Topeka said:

Another confirmed change in Return of the Jedi is a new effect when Han is unfrozen from carbonite.

Of course no screencaps yet. Grain of salt taken.

"Well here's a big bag of rock salt" - Patton Oswalt

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Angel wrote: Its interesting that only the wicket/willow ewok got the eye treatment and not in all shots(even close ups) Some look good and some others dont.

How about the ewok who steals the speeder bike, he's got some close ups.  or how about the baby ewok shot, it's a big close up?  Or one of the Logray, Chief Chirpa shots, the shot where they've all got their spears pointed at them?

The ewok who steals the speeder is the protagonist ewok right? It gets the eye treatment in some shots. when he is on the bike he is with his original eyes.

Correction: This guy too:

Topeka said:

Another confirmed change in Return of the Jedi is a new effect when Han is unfrozen from carbonite.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2avin81nxdec7g7 Han unfrozen clip 9credit to the MF.com

 

-Angel

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Angel said:

Its interesting that only the wicket/willow ewok got the eye treatment and not in all shots(even close ups) Some look good and some others dont.

The other ewoks are like you know them

As i speculated yesterday, that would be true to form, Lucas's changes are not thought out, creating new continuity flaws, like making all the CG Xwing markings the same in the 97SE, and now the miracle moving rock cave that R2 hides in.

This forum has the benefit of wise heads to bounce ideas about. If an idea sounds lame, it usually gets binned, there is no-one at LFL who dares to question Lucas's daft decisions.

 

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Clearly they're adding the subtext that Anakin was not the true Chosen One but R2 is - what with the rock rolling from his cave.

"Star Wars films are basically silent movies. And they're designed as silent movies, therefore the music carries a -- has a very large role in carrying the story, more than it would in a normal movie."  -GL

"NOO! NOOOOOO!!" - Darth Vader

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Wow.

As for the "No! Noooooooo!!!" it's obvious that is how George always intended it to be since he saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes last week.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Lucas has just given me more material for my next project...

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I feel like we're somewhat to blame... Lucas may have gotten the wrong idea from our community. Because of all our fanedits, maybe he thought we wanted more. It's just such a shame that the pros can't do what people like Adywan could... or Tellan, but sadly he disappeared.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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You know the funniest thing is, people have been whining at George Lucas for over 14 years now. Does he realize that we're all simply asking for the simplest of things...

A high-def transfer of best existing film sources of the original trilogy - he doesn't even need to touch a thing! Just leave it as it is, dust, film grain, matte-lines and all. Throw in the mono mix and 70mm mix for ANH and put it on a bluray. Voila. And we'll never bitch again.

Am I right? Or am I right? Right.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Someone should make it that Vader looks the BDs and then says No.... NOOOO!

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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adywan said:

proof that they have done no colour correction whatsoever to these movies. take ESB for example. Now one side id the blu-ray and the other is the 2004 HDTV versions. Now tell me which one is which?

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1908/brayvshdtvcomp.th.jpg

The blu ray looks a tiny bit better, but not by enough to drop 90 dollars on the saga set, unless you are buying it strictly for the deleted scenes of the oot and the oot making of docs.

The only real upgrade other than less compression from an HDTV rip, is that the audio is going to be in HD DTS Master audio 6.1.

 

No new scans, no color correction, its really a joke to even consider this Lucas final version when we know the next one is  five to six years away and in 3-D.

 

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Something else i noticed about the audio. The sound effects for part of the detention cell shoot out swapped channels in the 2004 versions. Now i decided to check the Blu-Ray audio and the same mistakes are there. Just check the section right after the Stormtroopers start knocking on the door when 3P0 is on the comlink right up until Leia blasts the hole in the wall. Now this was a mistake only found in the 2004 version and was correct in all the old mixes. You can hear it best if you can mute all channels apart from front left & right. even though the laser blasts are quite fast to keep a track of which direction they are, just keep an eye out for when Han shoots. You hear two clear blasts coming from the left channels when they should be coming out of the right. In this section all the effects are swapped. Now did they really start this mix again from scratch or did they just go and fix the rear channels and dialogue?

ANH:REVISITED
ESB:REVISITED

DONATIONS TOWARDS MATERIALS FOR THE REVISITED SAGA

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Are we even absolutely sure these are the blu rays that will street or its not an elaborate hoax?

 

I mean sure it fits right up there with disbelieving Hayden would be inserted into Jedi in 2004, or that We would see Aliens in Indiana Jones IV and Area 51 in 2008.

Strangely based on Lucas mentality since 1994 this kind of bizarre strangeness is not unexpected.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Is it possible, that these are simply unfinished? Maybe it's a leak of some preliminary version?

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@adywan:

Exactly as I predicted earlier.  They haven't remixed the entire movie from scratch as they claimed, they simply re-used the elements from the 2004 version and made a few tweaks to sort out the worst of the things we'd been complaining about.  So the music channels are fixed and the X-wing dive fanfare is back in, the dialogue might be a little less harsh . . . so what?  It's still the same muffled, distorted garbage as before, with a little polishing to try to shut us up.  But you know what they say about the things that can't be polished . . .

I'll have to hear it myself to say for sure, of course, but I'm quite certain of this already.

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So its a halfassed fixed version, no color timing fixed, lightsabers still wrong, garbage mattes claimed removed in 1997 and 2004 still there etc.

Par for the course as usual they only care about making money.

Lazy Lucasfilm was lazy.

They gave lowry less than 30 days to do the entire trilogy last time, and this time they claim they spent three years and a lot of time, money and research spent on this blu ray.

Is this complete and utter false advertising as of yet, will they get away with it once again? and history will be repeated it will be 2004 all over again and the Lucas gusher blogs will be all kissass again.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Alright, that's it. I'm no longer a Star Wars fan. I just can't take this abuse any longer.

Have fun, Lucas.

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Tobar's been keeping up up-to-date on this today. I've been afraid to come to the forums today considering the shitstorm I had rightfully predicted. That said...

My general thoughts have already been aired repeatedly by you fine folks here. I'm sad that this has happened. Very sad. It's as if we all cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Except we've never been noisier. Let's keep this up, maybe one day it'll come to actual, literal fruition.

 

Quotes!

 

hairy_hen said:

I think it's safe to say that we've at last without a doubt reached the point where Star Wars has ceased to be anything special or meaningful, and has instead become a complete joke.

 

Just wait until we see the next edition.

 

 

adywan said:

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4

I made the preview tiny just in case people don't want spoilers. Just click on the image to view

 

This looks like porn from back here, at-a-glance.

 

 

TV's Frink said:

This thread is giving me great ideas for my eventual Ridiculous edits of the OT.

 

Looks like George has beaten you to it, buddy.

 

 

Mondess122 said:

Another long time lurker here. Hello.

Lol, they couldn't even get Chad Vader to do the voice? It sounds like a pitched down voice. Wasn't there an article stating that Matthew Wood and possibly some other Lucasfilm employee are now officially in all 6 movies? If so, i wouldn't be surprised if they did the 'NooNoooo!' and the 'painful position Krayt cry'. But that also means there has to be another added voice inEmpire. Somebody please check this.

I wasn't planning to buy this immediately to begin with, but now...an absolute never.

I wonder how people who grew up with the 2004SE will react to this.

 

Not sure why I wanted to quote this one, but I wasn't going to not quote it after all that work. Matthew Wood is a bad man. A very, very bad man.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

(It hasn’t happened yet)

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I turn away for for a day or so...and madness. un-freaking believable.

Noooooooooo. Magic rocks. Fake door pans. A Dug in Jabba's Palace. Blinking Wicket. That awful noise. More crap just scribbled on the same 04.

More people will notice this time around. It's too obvious this time.

He's a freaking kid scribbling all over his own coloring book. It's that simple. This could be the new winner of "worst home video release ever". What does it take the crown from? The 04 discs.

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
YT channel:
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I was never a purist before...but this time?  Jeeezus!

This is the first time I've actually felt the GL disdain right down in my belly. 

Ewok eyes: I don't care.

Dug in Jabba's palace: No big deal.

New rocks and Palace gate:  Looks terrible.

Krayt dragon scream terrible: I feel a little sick.

Vader's 'new lines' in ROTJ: Cancelled pre-order.  More than anything else he's done, this is the last straw for me.  Today, it physically hurts to be a Star Wars fan.

 

 

Edited to change "whiner" to "purist".   The former is too insulting.

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Uncanny Antman said:

I was never one of those guys that whined about every little change in '97 and '04 ...but this time? ... Cancelled pre-order.

You're not alone.  Many people online are saying that they have cancelled their pre-orders, and this time it's not just the purists.