Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 219

SilverWook said:

Can someone confirm Sebastian Shaw is still there when the mask comes off, eyebrows or no eyebrows?

Yes, he is.

http://moments.starwars.com/scene/288

Alexrd said:

bkev said:

I mainly agree with your straman sentiments, but his last point you quoted is quite valid. It's called "The Saga of Anakin Skywalker" for a reason...

It may be a valid point, but nobody is arguing that it's a saga or that George wants to view it as such.

It's called the Star Wars Complete Saga...

Lucas has gone on record many, many times claiming it's one saga, the main character is Vader, etc. There is no argument because there's nothing to argue.

Tell us how George wants the saga to be viewed? Think he likes the idea of people trashing the PT and wanting the UOT without his alterations?

You make as much sense as Obi-Wan screaming like someone lit his balls on fire.

georgec said:

It's called the Star Wars Complete Saga...

Lucas has gone on record many, many times claiming it's one saga, the main character is Vader, etc. There is no argument because there's nothing to argue.

But who's arguing that it's a saga or not?

Tell us how George wants the saga to be viewed? Think he likes the idea of people trashing the PT and wanting the UOT without his alterations?

Have you even read my previous post? It seems you've just ignored it.

You make as much sense as Obi-Wan screaming like someone lit his balls on fire.

You only show your lack of argumentation with such childlike behaviour.

You're arguing that nobody's arguing about whether this is a saga or not...I truly don't understand what you're trying to convey. Many other people are also disappointed with the blu-ray leaks - why are you obsessed with my posts?

My last comment was a joke, kiddo. Lighten up.

georgec said:

You're arguing that nobody's arguing about whether this is a saga or not...

No. I'm clarifying that. You are the one arguing about it.

I truly don't understand what you're trying to convey.

Read my post again.

I've read your post before. I never said there's anything wrong with liking the PT as much as the OT. I said more people prefer the OT, and Lucas knows this. It's in his best interest to have people view the two trilogies as one saga so that they all continue to purchase SW products independent of OT/PT preferences. That would mean more profit for him. It's a pretty simple concept.

It's really not that hard to understand my original point. Again, I'm not arguing. I've been clarifying my original point but you're obsessed with creating an argument where there is none.

If you want to discuss this more, you can PM me. Otherwise, stop skewing my words and dragging this out, son.

OzoneSherrif said:

less arguments more screen caps!

I've only seen ANH, but I don't have an HDTV version to make a comparison. And since I'm far from home, I can't use the DVD's.

georgec said:

I've read your post before. I never said there's anything wrong with liking the PT as much as the OT. I said more people prefer the OT, and Lucas knows this. It's in his best interest to have people view the two trilogies as one saga so that they all continue to purchase SW products independent of OT/PT preferences. That would mean more profit for him. It's a pretty simple concept.

It's really not that hard to understand my original point. Again, I'm not arguing. I've been clarifying my original point but you're obsessed with creating an argument where there is none.

I won't repeat myself.

If you want to discuss this more, you can PM me. Otherwise, stop skewing my words and dragging this out, son.

'Son'?

Sigh...

Bingowings said:

The Artoo cave mouth thing doesn't look that bad and there is what looks like an opening on the other side for him to get in and out.

True. I actually didn't notice it the first time I saw it. Anyway, he still got the priorities wrong.

Jabba's palace gets a new zoom pan.

http://www.mediafire.com/?f15ueeuu3ftu466

Rename the file to avi because the original uploader seems to missed it

Its pretty damn good that actualy that damn shot got opened up :)

-Angel

Angel said:

Its pretty damn good that actualy that damn shot got opened up :)

Is the size accurate to Luke's entrance?

Well, I'll post it anyways - the door pan isn't too bad. I just wish that we could have the special editions and the UOT together. This way people could possibly enjoy both versions of the films. It'll never happen, but it makes you appreciate what Ridley Scott did for Blade Runner or Spielberg did for E.T. / Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

You get a section inside the palace when luke comes. That wouldnt be a problem

-Angel

Angel said:

You get a section inside the palace when luke comes. That would be a problem

 

-Angel

Yes, that's the one I'm talking about.

OzoneSherrif said:

less arguments more screen caps!

'Kay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doubleKO said:

Krayt and Vader audio confirmed according to some dude

Some dude, literally.

Angel said:

adywan said:

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4

I made the preview tiny just in case people don't want spoilers. Just click on the image to view

I like them! Pretty well executed :)

Trust me, they are not. they look horrendous in motion. it doesn't even look like they tracked the shots to match any frame movement. And bloody jabbas door pan looks horrendous:

http://youtu.be/0BoOsNnsfsk?hd=1

Onto the audio for ANH:

During the opening battle aboard the tantive IV the music is drowned out in favour of the sound effects. then are there are other places too when it's really hard to hear any of the music above the Effects at all. There are a few differences here and there, but i need to go over the audio side of things again. But they screwed up at the end. When they are preparing the Death Star's laser, You could always clearly hear the operators saying "stand by" twice. Well try to hear them saying anything in this mix. It's so far back in the mix they might as well have been whispering it. And they still haven't taken those damn X-wing sound effects from the Falcon vs TIE battle as they escape the death Star. This was an error created in 1997 and never sorted. Yeh, the dialogue is clearer and seems to mix together between alternate audio takes, unlike the 2004 mix and the surround swapping for the music seems to have been fixed in the rear channels also but sometimes the sound effects just seem to drown everything out. yes, the fanfare has returned during the death star dive, but i would say this mix is only a marginal improvement.

Oh , and only that 1 shot that features lightsabers has been altered throughout the whole movie. Obi-Wan still gets his purple lightsabre in some shots and the sabre still goes out and the sabre aboard the falcon alternates between green and blue. Instead of adding damn rocks in front of R2, maybe they should have spent the time to fix these issues?

adywan said:

Trust me, they are not. they look horrendous in motion. it doesn't even look like they tracked the shots to match any frame movement. And bloody jabbas door pan looks horrendous:

That sucks. In only few moments to see and review the blu OT before buying it and im eager for these changes. well if they did it wrong there is room for improvement.

The jabba door has some shadow errors as well R2 is more into the sand..

-Angel

Gaffer Tape said:

Oh, I think I figured out how R2 got in there.  What ady didn't show us is the preceding footage where there's actually a hole above the cave.  In the last shot, R2 flies up in the air with his rocket boots, does a little figure 8 and a somersault and then lands deftly in the cave.  I mean, obviously it's to match the prequels.  It's like poetry.

Blast, I was all set to go with this same joke.  

Have they done as I suggested and removed the X-Wing from Dagobah?  When Luke has to go save Han, he just fixes a bicycle seat to R2's dome and together they set off for Bespin.

hairy_hen said:

Holy shast.  These new changes have to be a joke, right?  RIGHT?!

When I saw that R2 pic I was quite literally speechless, capable only of inarticulate sputtering for an entire minute.  How the hell did he even get in there in the first place???  Gaffer's theory of using those o-so-fanciful rocket boosters (gee, wouldn't those have been helpful when he fell into the Dagobah swamp in ESB?) and coming down from above is the only explanation, and that makes me ill just thinking about it.

The not-at-all-childhood-DNA-ruining Krayt Dragon revision made me burst out laughing so hard I thought I'd gone insane.  What a bunch of crackpot tomfoolery . . . I mean good grief, even the piece of crap sound from the 2004 version was better than that!  In fact, I now pine for the 2004 version because at least it didn't have this utter bollocks in there!  Vader's big exclamation when he turns on the Emperor: likewise one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

I think it's safe to say that we've at last without a doubt reached the point where Star Wars has ceased to be anything special or meaningful, and has instead become a complete joke.  A pathetic excuse for a has-been director to try to stay 'relevant' because he has nothing new to say and can only revamp his old work over and over again, obsessed with thinking it wasn't good enough and needs to be constantly remade for no real reason.  Had he never felt the need to revise the movies, he would have gone into history as the creator of one of the most universally beloved film series of all time, but now he just likes like a fool out of touch with reality.  And as for Matthew Wood . . . well, my opinion of that guy cannot remotely be expressed with language acceptable for use in civilised conversation, so I'll just sum it up with, "Who's the more foolish?  The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

Very well said.