How many posts till this thread gets locked?

darth_ender said:

I was originally composing this in my religion thread, but I want to preserve the civility there.

Too late.

Thank goodness all the other threads were locked.  That really solved the problem, didn't it?

:-/

Look, twooffour, "You started it" [one of his comebacks in the religion thread] is not exactly becoming of someone we assume is educated beyond third grade.

Zig tunes in. Addresses my comment. Then says "I'll ignore you based on my pledge".
The pledge was made in an earlier flamewar trainwreck. He brings it up. I respond. He started it. The end.

And how can you claim to be on some kind of higher moral ground when a slight comment is made about not wanting to respond to you, and then you feel the need to disproportionally retaliate with yet another long-winded explanation of how you are so logical and intelligent and too high above us to be so immature and emotional?

What the FUCK? Are you living in some parallel universe or something?

1. You make a bunch of argument on a topic. I adddress them.
2. You imply that I somehow bring hostility into a peaceful thread, which is why you'd prefer not to respond to me. Even though I actually haven't done anything of the sort.

So if addressing false accusations and on-topic arguments counts as "lecture/rant/retaliation about how intelligent one is", maybe you should stay out of internet discussions.

If the problem is not you but rather the rest of us, leave here and go sign up for Mensa.  I'm sure they would appreciate your superior intellect, and I promise you would not be terribly missed here.

All I do is post a few comments in your thread, and you have to start the "who is the problem, who is more intelligent" crap again? Why do you have to do this?

You simply cannot handle "the truth.  This is called cognitive dissonance.  I see NO reason to be civil with you when you are "dead wrong."  When one is intellectually superior and, uses IMPERVIOUS logic to PROVE you wrong, you simply cannot handle it.  It comes from, being delusional.

Alright, alright, pal, stop right there.

The problem here is transparently obvious: you perceive challenges and direct criticisms of religious ideas as offensive and aggressive. That's it, there's nothing more to that.

There wasn't a SINGLE SENTENCE in my posts on the "Religion" thread that were somehow aggressive or "uncivil" - but to you, the mere insinuation that a religious belief may *gasp* be based on delusion or cognitive dissonance or ignorance, already counts as offense.

If you think you're being wrongly accused of delusion, why not MAKE A COUNTER-ARGUMENT.
And if you can't be bothered to do that but would rather prefer to cry and complain about "uncivil" treatment... as I said, keep out of discussions if you're so hyper-sensitive.

As I said, you are an ignoramus, and if you cannot write a lengthy essay to prove me wrong, I remain "right," and back to you and stick like glue, so THERE.  In fact, as long as I'm the last one to comment, even if my comments are full of fallacious holes, I am still right by default.

Yes, that's how a debate is supposed to work. Thanks for summing up!

If you can't be bothered to "write a lengthy essay" to point out those "fallacious holes", then you're not prepared to partake in a discussion and should stay out of it.
And you really shouldn't be tossing EMPTY ACCUSATIONS about there being fallacious holes.

How obvious does that have to be?? Let's see those "fallacious holes". PLEASE. I'm waiting.

Actually, civil liberties have not been completely resolved.  There are still serious race and sex "related" disparities.  And by out of hand, I assuming you are implying that all Darks are looking for, "handouts".  Since you are uneducated, you are more prone to racism, so it's "obvious" that you would make such a blatantly BIGOTED stateMENT.

It's hard for me to even comprehend what you're saying here, but where did I accuse you of bigotry?




No. The simple truth is, you make a thread about religion, while being religious yourself, and get exaggeratedly offended by a guy making simple arguments. Don't try to make it into anything other than what it is.

Congratulations on falling into the "I'm religious. Any challenges to my beliefs will be perceived as intrusive; any criticisms of my beliefs will be perceived as harsh; any harsh criticisms as rudeness; and any rudeness as fascism and persecution" stereotype.

You start a dicussion thread. Instead of tolerating or addressing arguments made in this discussion thread, you prefer to whine and complain about arguments contrary to your views, and shift the blame on the others.
Instead of maintaining what you call a "civil on-topic discussion", you prefer to disregard the on-topic substance, and turn it into yet another childish pissing contest.
So who's the problem here, what do you think?

You behave like a 10 year old, and as a result you won't be taken seriously, and don't earn any respect.
Welcome to reality.

Note how we're heading for yet another trainwreck, and once again the initiative is that of someone else.

STAY ON TOPIC AND QUIT THE CHILDISH BICKERING. Would that be hard, or easy? What do you think?

As for me, no more posts in this direction will be responded to. If you want another pissing contest, you can try and start one without me.

I hate to come across as a stooge but it doesn't look like twooffour is ever going to self moderate what he posts so why don't you just ignore what he is posting if it annoys you so much?

You don't have to reply to his posts with complaints and GIF bombs and bespoke threads, you don't have to reply to his posts at all.

You can hide most of them from your gaze by using the ignore feature.

The in your face nature of pledge was silly but the basic idea wasn't.

If you are truly infuriated by the majority of what he does just don't engage with him in any way.

I personally don't get too annoyed by him so he isn't really an issue for me.

But the effect of everyone ballyhooing at him is making Off Topic less fun and I don't want to put everyone on ignore (I don't have anyone on ignore) because I wouldn't be able to read anything.

Bingowings said:

I hate to come across as a stooge but it doesn't look like twooffour is ever going to self moderate what he posts so why don't you just ignore what he is posting if it annoys you so much?

The funny thing is, none of my posts in that thread actually was any rude, offensive, actively disrespectful, or anything of that sort.

The only true reason he's annoyed is because I challenged his arguments / beliefs.
Read the previous sentence a few more times unil the implications set in :)

If you say so.

But it is clearly an observable phenomenon that your posts frequently generate chocolate colared waves.

If people are so upset by what you type (regardless of what you think about it) it makes sense that they switch you off.

I will not because nine times out of ten I can filter out anything you post that might rub me up the wrong way.

Bingowings said:

If you say so.

But it is clearly an observable phenomenon that your posts frequently generate chocolate colared waves.

If people are so upset by what you type (regardless of what you think about it) it makes sense that they switch you off.

I will not because nine times out of ten I can filter out anything you post that might rub me up the wrong way.

Well, I absolutely don't care about people switching me off if they want to, maybe because that way I actually don't notice anything.
What I objected against were his silly accusations and complaints, not "switching off" (as he's obviously yet to do that).

For the record, yes, some of my other posts HAVE been gruffly in tone. I could at least understand why they would rub their target the wrong way.

But most clearly not in this case, as anyone reading my posts in the "religion" thread can see.

I don't know much of what was said here because I do have the ignore function on.  I posted this in anger, and then signed off, and after thinking things through, I wish I hadn't said things the way I did.  I want all to know that while I was extremely irritated, I should not have lashed out so much.  I apologize to twooffour as well.  It's clear we weren't made for each other ;)  That is my obscure humor, by the way.  I truly wish there were some way to convince you that you really have a knack for grating on others' nerves.  However, since it's clear that I could never convince you otherwise, I just want to make you aware that I am sorry for how I treated you here.  I will keep you on my ignore simply to keep the peace, since I can be a little hot-headed at times.  Say what you like, and those who are better at handling what you say can keep reading what you type.  Please know that this apology is sincere, though I wish you'd seriously reconsider your methods and style.  I really am sorry.

This is getting more and more ludicrous.

No, sorry; my posts in the Religion thread were perfectly civil, and dare I say, respectful.
There was NO REASON AT ALL for you to lash out like this - your anger issues and hypersensitivity are to blame, nothing else.

You got irritated over a normal, reasonable discussion. I have nothing to reconsider there.

So go on, keep me on ignore so you won't have to read anything that challenges your arguments. I honestly don't give one - just spare me with this drama.

If you were having a normal, reasonable discussion, nobody would have gotten mad.

Ziggy Stardust said:

If you were having a normal, reasonable discussion, nobody would have gotten mad.

Unless... they held beliefs they don't like to be challenged.

Having that said, according to his latest post in the other thread, he apparently lost his temper seeing a new trainwreck arising... so I guess that would make you responsible :DD

Ziggy Stardust said:

If you were having a normal, reasonable discussion, nobody would have gotten mad.

Despite the pledge thread being locked, I can still edit the OP...so should I remove you?

Sorry. I guess I had a relapse.

:DDD

darth_ender said:

I was originally composing this in my religion thread, but I want to preserve the civility there.  This thread will serve sort of like the parking lot when you want to throw down.  Please enjoy.

I've made no actual pledge, but let me just reiterate that all it takes is any slight comment and the super sensitive "Mr. Insensitivity" goes off on another immature lecture/rant.  Look, twooffour, "You started it" [one of his comebacks in the religion thread] is not exactly becoming of someone we assume is educated beyond third grade.  And how can you claim to be on some kind of higher moral ground when a slight comment is made about not wanting to respond to you, and then you feel the need to disproportionally retaliate with yet another long-winded explanation of how you are so logical and intelligent and too high above us to be so immature and emotional?  If the problem is not you but rather the rest of us, leave here and go sign up for Mensa.  I'm sure they would appreciate your superior intellect, and I promise you would not be terribly missed here.

I actually was inclined to respond to your surprisingly well-articulated points in the religion thread (though I'd stated I would not, but I almost forgot how consistently rude and over-the-top you are.  Anyone else could have said the same things and I'd love to carry on the conversation, but I just cannot stand any kind of communication with you any longer.

 

Example situation:

Hypothetical Guy might have said:

Twooffour, I really don't agree, and you don't need to be so rude about it.  I have tried to be civil, but this is getting out of hand.

Then...

twooffour would certainly then say:

You simply cannot handle "the truth.  This is called cognitive dissonance.  I see NO reason to be civil with you when you are "dead wrong."  When one is intellectually superior and, uses IMPERVIOUS logic to PROVE you wrong, you simply cannot handle it.  It comes from, being delusional.

Twooffour, I really don't agree,

As I said, you are an ignoramus, and if you cannot write a lengthy essay to prove me wrong, I remain "right," and back to you and stick like glue, so THERE.  In fact, as long as I'm the last one to comment, even if my comments are full of fallacious holes, I am still right by default.

and you don't need to be so rude about it.

There is no need to be polite with those who are wrong.  If you are an IDIOT, then, there, is no, "need" to mince words about it.  You are an idiot.

I have tried to be civil, but this is getting out of hand.

Actually, civil liberties have not been completely resolved.  There are still serious race and sex "related" disparities.  And by out of hand, I assuming you are implying that all Darks are looking for, "handouts".  Since you are uneducated, you are more prone to racism, so it's "obvious" that you would make such a blatantly BIGOTED stateMENT.

Hypothetical would then reply:

What?  What on earth are you talking about?

...Which would perpetuate the twooffour cycle.

Watch, you will prove me right.  In this very thread, I'm certain.  Only with more spelling errors ;)  No, this is not my obscure humor.  I am genuinely sick of you.  I know you will fulfill my prophecy, but I will never receive any verification from you, because as of now, you are ignored.

 

just take the pledge.

Do or do not, there is need to make a song a and dance out of it.

Warbler said:

just take the pledge.

It's funny how, once again confirming my analysis, the pledge is offered to someone who can't manage to act reasonably otherwise ;)

did you hear something? .  .  .  I guess it must have been a little more wind from Irene.   

full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Nah it was just me yawning.