TheBoost said:
Watching ESB with my 2 year old.
He sees the tauntaun and, thinking it's a horse, identifies it as "neeeeeeigh."
I'm so embarrassed. I tried to explain that tauntaun's aren't horses, but he never listens. Arg.
Oh man, I'm so calling Protective Services on you.
My five year old son picks the episodes he wants to watch. At some point. we'll sit and watch them in some sort of order but at the moment he mainly plumps for the last hour of Attack Of The Clones and certain scenes from Return Of The Jedi. He's recently been allowed to watch Revenge Of The Sith and I think he enjoys that because of its previously forbidden nature.
I don't impose any kind of watch-these-films-they're-better-than-the-others mentality on him, mainly because I don't subscribe to that viewpoint.
My son was five when The Phantom Menace came out. I made sure he had the opportunity to see the OOT before that and he loved it. I had no reason to keep the prequels from him as we watched them together in the cinema, not knowing how good or bad they would be.
Despite being a prequel generation kid, he is now 17 and knows which Star Wars movies are good and which are not. I think the "no prequels in my house" stance is going too far with it. It's fair that you don't want to buy the prequels for your own collection, but you wouldn't say no if they specifically asked for a prequel movie for their birthday or something would you? :(
The only time they will enjoy JarJar Binks, robots who say "Roger, Roger" and possibly identify with crappy child actors is when they are children. You can't give it back later.
As someone who grew up with the prequels, I can tell you they're something you grow out of when you begin to see just how terrible they are, while the OT still stands up to scrutiny.
I honestly think there's nothing to fear for future generations.
Like them lil Ewoks taught us, power is meaningless if you're on the Dark Side. Lucasfilm cannot rewrite history or force us to adopt whatever warped perspective allows Lucas to view the prequels as good.
TheoOdo said:
As someone who grew up with the prequels, I can tell you they're something you grow out of when you begin to see just how terrible they are, while the OT still stands up to scrutiny.
I honestly think there's nothing to fear for future generations.
Like them lil Ewoks taught us, power is meaningless if you're on the Dark Side. Lucasfilm cannot rewrite history or force us to adopt whatever warped perspective allows Lucas to view the prequels as good.
I agree with this completely; having also grown up with, and at one time enjoying, the prequels as well, I can safely say that I recognize today that they're more or less piles of tripe that do the title "Star Wars" injustice, and I think most kids will see that as they grow up as well.
As a person, you "grow into" certain things, and good cinema is one of those things. It's like hating coffee, or mushrooms on pizza, or green olives as a kid; or like loving sugary cereal, or eating frosting out of the can, or wanting to subsist off of candy. There's a number of things you hate/love as a kid that you end up loving/hating as an adult.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
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Tyrphanax said:
TheoOdo said:
As someone who grew up with the prequels, I can tell you they're something you grow out of when you begin to see just how terrible they are, while the OT still stands up to scrutiny.
I honestly think there's nothing to fear for future generations.
Like them lil Ewoks taught us, power is meaningless if you're on the Dark Side. Lucasfilm cannot rewrite history or force us to adopt whatever warped perspective allows Lucas to view the prequels as good.I agree with this completely; having also grown up with, and at one time enjoying, the prequels as well, I can safely say that I recognize today that they're more or less piles of tripe that do the title "Star Wars" injustice, and I think most kids will see that as they grow up as well.
^These.
Wait, Bloodnose! I added more words!
You must accept my new "original vision" for the post, even though it's not the version you grew up with and love.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
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You raped my childhood. ;(
You call it "raping", I call it "enhancing". Let's call the whole thing off.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
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You're tearing me apart, Lisa!
(and on that note I'm going to bed)
xhonzi said:
There seems to be a bit of a double standard here:
1. Star Wars (The Original Trilogy) is not so important or great as to cause you to do much to not ruin it.
2. Star Wars (To include The Prequel Trilogy and the Clone Wars TV Show) is too important to not show your kids. You should buy them their own PT boxset for their birthdays.
If it's not important, why is it important that I haven't shown the PT to my kids?
It was sarcasm ;))
(In case you let them watch stupid cartoons on TV)
Heh, always had the feeling I'd missed some important bit in that thread... so /bump.
Ugh, what a terrible bump.
The Space-Time Colontinuum, has just burst!
Just wanting to give this thread a better bump. There's not much TV watching in our house (yeah one of those), so I've got a four-year-old who hasn't seen much in the way of movies in general, and in particular hasn't seen Star Wars. External influences aren't a big concern yet...in our town, he's more likely to come home with dreadlocks and a bongo than a Jar Jar backpack (and frankly I'd prefer it). Thanks to Harmy, I can now start him out right, probably around age 5. And in spite of the availability of the GOUT and Laserdisc transfers, I've gone quite a long time without seeing them at all myself and will enjoy coming back to them (sadly, George's embargo against Star Wars has kinda worked for me, haven't seen it in a decade, maybe more). Anyway, here's how I plan on handling the SE's and PT: if asked about the "larger Star Wars world", or specifically about characters on Star Wars lunchboxes that aren't in the movies, I will say that in addition to the three Star Wars movies, there is a huge amount of novels, comic books, fan fiction, cartoons, fan-made movies, and even fan-made edits or the original movies--most of which isn't very good, but if he's interested I'd be willing to pick up a novel or comic book for him and he can see for himself. As far as I'm concerned the PT's are on equal footing with fan-made movies (the fan in this case being named George), and the SE's are just another fan edit, and if my kid wants to peruse the world of Star Wars fan fiction, he's welcome to it, but George's fan fiction isn't getting priority placement in the pile just because of who he is.
Nice take ;)
CatBus said:
... he's more likely to come home with dreadlocks and a bongo than a Jar Jar backpack (and frankly I'd prefer it).
Master, what's a bongo?
A... transport. I hope.
Son: I must tell you something.
Father: What is it?
Son: I'm...
Father: You're... what!?
Son: I'm a Prequeler.
Father: .......
Son: Dad?
Father: Why would you call me "Dad" when I HAVE NO SON!
Since they're like poetry, what with the rhyming and all, I find that I only need to watch three out of the six films.
I love this Episode IV sticker:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/e87c/
Star Wars Revisited Wordpress
Star Wars Visual Comparisons WordPress
I can't decide whether this is sweet or cruel.
And no, not because they're ewoks...you ewok bashers.
The blue elephant in the room.
I dunno. I guess its not different then believing in Santa all your child hood and then one day you realized that Santa was never there in the first place and move on with life.
And the main topic thing, this is just weird. Restricting kids from the PT because it wasn't anything like the OT? Awkward...
WhatsMyName said:
I dunno. I guess its not different then believing in Santa all your child hood and then one day you realized that Santa was never there in the first place and move on with life.
And the main topic thing, this is just weird. Restricting kids from the PT because it wasn't anything like the OT? Awkward...
That makes sense.
As far as the topic goes, I have great sympathy for xhonzi's point of view. I certainly won't feel motivated to subject my future younglings children to the PT. It's not about being merely different from the OT...it's about undermining the glory of the OT, to put it slightly melodramatically. I certainly don't want a world for my kids in which the PT is considered Star Wars gospel. Whether I could be as diligent and steadfast in keeping the influence of PT out of my home...I don't know. But they will know the truth!
The blue elephant in the room.
Tyrphanax said:
TheoOdo said:
As someone who grew up with the prequels, I can tell you they're something you grow out of when you begin to see just how terrible they are, while the OT still stands up to scrutiny.
I honestly think there's nothing to fear for future generations.
Like them lil Ewoks taught us, power is meaningless if you're on the Dark Side. Lucasfilm cannot rewrite history or force us to adopt whatever warped perspective allows Lucas to view the prequels as good.I agree with this completely; having also grown up with, and at one time enjoying, the prequels as well, I can safely say that I recognize today that they're more or less piles of tripe that do the title "Star Wars" injustice, and I think most kids will see that as they grow up as well.
As a person, you "grow into" certain things, and good cinema is one of those things. It's like hating coffee, or mushrooms on pizza, or green olives as a kid; or like loving sugary cereal, or eating frosting out of the can, or wanting to subsist off of candy. There's a number of things you hate/love as a kid that you end up loving/hating as an adult.
Have a younger PT generation cousin that owns all 6 movies on his laptop.
He helped me get Harmy's movies, so he's cool.
he is too young to remember when he first saw the OT on video but grew up with PT. during the theatrical run it seemed like he enjoyed them when we talked about it. But it was interesting to hear him say things like "yeah, but those movies have a lot of computer graphics". It gave me the impression that little kids are actually smarter than give them credit for. and PT were never anywhere near as popular to kids his age as POTC, LOTR, Shrek or the new Batman movies.
he is in college now and thinks the PT sucks and the OT is a lot better. He is worried Lucas is gonna replace Yoda in ESB with a CGI yoda. He says the movies don't work if you watch them in numerical order because it looks like the PT is more technologically advanced than the OT.
I never told him my true feelings of the PT because it was I who introduced him to star wars and told him and his sister that TPM was gonna be awesome. pretty embarassing to be a fan of something you think is going to be cool only to have it suck ass :(
so when he said PT is bad, I asked him if he was saying that cuz he learned it from the RLM videos. He didn't, but just last week he told me he saw them and thought they are hilarious and spot on. especially this one for Episode III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTffAjsUfs :(
anecdotal story to be sure. hopefully many more like it.
Oy, i'm done with this subject. :0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTffAjsUfs :(
I don't understand the meaning of this particular smiley in the given context...