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TV's Frink said:

gobalicious said:

I could be wrong depending on how BobGarcia, TheCutter, and Adywan's revolutionary edits turn out though.

*scans list for own name*

*sobs*

I would like to be proven even more wrong.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

This is so complicated. I prefer the prequels NOT fan-edited, because they're less boring in their original form and qualify as dark comedies (albeit unintentionally).

I wonder if anyone's ever made fan edits of the PT with a laugh track added to the background. It would be morbidly funny to hear some hysterical laughter break out as Anakin gets sliced & diced then caramelized.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

This is so complicated. I prefer the prequels NOT fan-edited, because they're less boring in their original form and qualify as dark comedies (albeit unintentionally).

I wonder if anyone's ever made fan edits of the PT with a laugh track added to the background. It would be morbidly funny to hear some hysterical laughter break out as Anakin gets sliced & diced then caramelized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5GjsJbRWA

Wait for it...

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These films are unsalvagable. They have no narrative drive, no sympathetic characters, atrocious to mediocore acting, wooden dialogue, inauthentic (and increasingly obsolete) special effects,  and no apparent character motivation for actions (characters do things because it is written in the script).

Only the soundtracks are in the same league, although still not as good as, those of the OT.

There were only two scenes in the entire PT that I found entertaining; both of the lightsaber duels from TPM.

How anyone can like these movies is beyond me.

“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord

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Perhaps not everybody sees them as unsalvagable. But then again I don't want this to become a gusher/basher discussion so I'll just say to each his own.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I wonder if anyone's ever made fan edits of the PT with a laugh track added to the background.

I actually heard AOTC with laugh track, in the theater!  No kidding, there were actually people laughing during a few of the scenes that weren't supposed to be funny (during the "sand" dialogue, and when Anikin was having a nightmare).

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Ziggy Stardust said:

I use to like them.....

....and then I turned 4.

Congratulations on two years of not liking them!

;-)

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Can I have a "Below par, but still watchable when properly fan edited" category?

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TV's Frink said:

Ziggy Stardust said:

I use to like them.....

....and then I turned 4.

Congratulations on two years of not liking them!

;-)

The sad thing is that only a few years ago that statement would have been true.

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theprequelsrule said:

These films are unsalvagable. They have no narrative drive, no sympathetic characters, atrocious to mediocore acting, wooden dialogue, inauthentic (and increasingly obsolete) special effects,  and no apparent character motivation for actions (characters do things because it is written in the script).

Only the soundtracks are in the same league, although still not as good as, those of the OT.

There were only two scenes in the entire PT that I found entertaining; both of the lightsaber duels from TPM.

How anyone can like these movies is beyond me.

We read the Jedi Prince series when we were kids and I guess we just never quite fully recovered.

"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies.  Please make more Star Wars movies."

-The Internet

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Darth Bizarro said:



theprequelsrule said:

These films are unsalvagable. They have no narrative drive, no sympathetic characters, atrocious to mediocore acting, wooden dialogue, inauthentic (and increasingly obsolete) special effects,  and no apparent character motivation for actions (characters do things because it is written in the script).

Only the soundtracks are in the same league, although still not as good as, those of the OT.

There were only two scenes in the entire PT that I found entertaining; both of the lightsaber duels from TPM.

How anyone can like these movies is beyond me.


We read the Jedi Prince series when we were kids and I guess we just never quite fully recovered.

You're saying Jedi Prince made you daffy and unable to judge correctly?

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

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"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

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Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:


Is there a truly correct way to judge things though?

Yes. If that's not a sufficient enough answer for you, however, I probably can't help you.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Two of the reasons the prequels are virtually unwatchable if you can ignore Lucas bad direction and poor scripts, is that David Tatterstall is a horrible cinematographer in my honest opinion, and ben burrt a horrible film/video editor, except of course for the film he won an award for special effects.

Other than that what can i say i like about the prequels some of Williams music but not very much of it is as iconic as the oot, the saber duel in menace is a bit overdone at least ray park is a real martial artist/gymnast, skilled in kendo. The duels in II and III were laughably bad.

Jake Lloyd is almost bearable in Episode 1 and overly criticized once you get to the transition worst actor possibly ever to grace a star wars film, hayden christensen.  Jake at least came off a precocious kid and dreamer, and was likeable nothing likable about hayden's version of Skywalker.

Unless being a whiny emo bitch and treasonous to the Jedi order are noble traits.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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xhonzi said:

 

Darth Bizarro said:



theprequelsrule said:

These films are unsalvagable. They have no narrative drive, no sympathetic characters, atrocious to mediocore acting, wooden dialogue, inauthentic (and increasingly obsolete) special effects,  and no apparent character motivation for actions (characters do things because it is written in the script).

Only the soundtracks are in the same league, although still not as good as, those of the OT.

There were only two scenes in the entire PT that I found entertaining; both of the lightsaber duels from TPM.

How anyone can like these movies is beyond me.


We read the Jedi Prince series when we were kids and I guess we just never quite fully recovered.

You're saying Jedi Prince made you daffy and unable to judge correctly?

 

You know, I don't take issue with skyjedi or Puggo coming over here and sharing their distaste for the prequels because all they are doing is sharing their opinions of the movies.  I don't hear either of them calling our opinions wrong though.

I think you're just bitter because we are able to enjoy them and therefore have 6 movies to watch instead of only 3.

"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies.  Please make more Star Wars movies."

-The Internet

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Darth Bizarro said:

xhonzi said: 

Darth Bizarro said:

We read the Jedi Prince series when we were kids and I guess we just never quite fully recovered.


You're saying Jedi Prince made you daffy and unable to judge correctly?

 


You know, I don't take issue with skyjedi or Puggo coming over here and sharing their distaste for the prequels because all they are doing is sharing their opinions of the movies.  I don't hear either of them calling our opinions wrong though.


Sorry, I thought I was riffing off of your comment about the Jedi Prince series. Perhaps I mistook your meaning. What did you mean by bringing up Jedi Prince?


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I think you're just bitter because we are able to enjoy them and therefore have 6 movies to watch instead of only 3.

I don't think so. If I'm "bitter" (though that's not quite the word for it) it's that I don't want the PT in my OT, and as has been put better recently by some others here, that's getting increasingly hard. I didn't come to OT.com because it was a "bashers" sanctuary so much as it was an "ignorers" sanctuary. Yet, as time goes on, anything Star Wars is increasingly becoming saga focused (with a heavy PT/TCW bias) and likewise OT.com (the membership, anyhow) is progressively becoming "saga" minded. That is to say, that the members here are less "ignory" than it used to be and I find that I don't enjoy coming here as much as I did 5 years ago. Even this sanctuary moon site has fallen to the PT machine.

And I find that very sad and frustrating.

Also- RE: the 3 vs 6 deal. I guess maybe you're right. I really wanted to like the PT and assumed I would... Right up until the fall of 1998 when the flags started to go up. But a couple years back, I basically liked 0 SW movies. The PT had tainted so much of my once and former passion for SW... I had to take a hardline "ignore" stance just to get back to liking the 3 of them again. I'm somewhat envious of anyone who like's all 6... but I also think there's something wrong with you.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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There's something wrong with anyone who puts skyjedi and Puggo on the same field of complaints.

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What's the obsession with "ignoring" a bunch of movies so actively? Can't the mind just do that job? Why does it have to be some social environment that pretends as if some movie wasn't made?

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xhonzi said:

 


Darth Bizarro said:

xhonzi said: 

Darth Bizarro said:

We read the Jedi Prince series when we were kids and I guess we just never quite fully recovered.


You're saying Jedi Prince made you daffy and unable to judge correctly?

 


You know, I don't take issue with skyjedi or Puggo coming over here and sharing their distaste for the prequels because all they are doing is sharing their opinions of the movies.  I don't hear either of them calling our opinions wrong though.


Sorry, I thought I was riffing off of your comment about the Jedi Prince series. Perhaps I mistook your meaning. What did you mean by bringing up Jedi Prince?


Darth Bizarro said:
I think you're just bitter because we are able to enjoy them and therefore have 6 movies to watch instead of only 3.

I don't think so. If I'm "bitter" (though that's not quite the word for it) it's that I don't want the PT in my OT, and as has been put better recently by some others here, that's getting increasingly hard. I didn't come to OT.com because it was a "bashers" sanctuary so much as it was an "ignorers" sanctuary. Yet, as time goes on, anything Star Wars is increasingly becoming saga focused (with a heavy PT/TCW bias) and likewise OT.com (the membership, anyhow) is progressively becoming "saga" minded. That is to say, that the members here are less "ignory" than it used to be and I find that I don't enjoy coming here as much as I did 5 years ago. Even this sanctuary moon site has fallen to the PT machine.

And I find that very sad and frustrating.

Also- RE: the 3 vs 6 deal. I guess maybe you're right. I really wanted to like the PT and assumed I would... Right up until the fall of 1998 when the flags started to go up. But a couple years back, I basically liked 0 SW movies. The PT had tainted so much of my once and former passion for SW... I had to take a hardline "ignore" stance just to get back to liking the 3 of them again. I'm somewhat envious of anyone who like's all 6... but I also think there's something wrong with you.

 

I'm sorry but I didn't take too kindly to being told that I'm unable to judge correctly because I like the prequels.  I don't think it's anybody's right to say who's judgement is correct but you may have just been being sarcastic and if that's the case than I misread your sarcasm and may have over reacted.  If so then I apologize.  My Jedi Prince comment was intended as a sarcastic response to your initial comment because I really didn't want this thread to turn into a argument about the prequels.

I do share may of the same criticisms about the prequels that other people here have.  The difference is that I'm able to overlook these negatives and find something to enjoy about them still simply because they are still Star Wars films.

But I really don't think you have much to worry about as far as OT.com becoming more Saga oriented.  We're still pretty much a minority here.  But we still share the same passions for the classic films and their preservations that you guys do, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies.  Please make more Star Wars movies."

-The Internet

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Darth Bizarro said:

I do share may of the same criticisms about the prequels that other people here have.  The difference is that I'm able to overlook these negatives and find something to enjoy about them still simply because they are still Star Wars films.

A lot of people would disagree with that too.

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Darth Bizarro said:

because they are still Star Wars films.

Unless you have other reasons to like them (as I do) apart from their brand association to a good movie series, I'm making use of my right to call your judgment incorrect and fallacious. Thanks.