Worst Dialogue from the OT. — Page 2

timdiggerm said:

Back on topic, "Copy Gold Leader" has really, really awful delivery.

"Pick up your visual scanning" has always cracked me up. "Look around you!"

Thanks for ruining that line for me.

;)

Just my reading but...

The emphasis serves as a distraction (well it did before open repetition and the PT spoiled the surprise).

By placing the emphasis on the "you" the audience is lulled into believing that Vader is going to say someone else killed him (possibly Obi-Wan).

So when Vader says he is Luke's father it comes as even more of surprise.

As for the Tosche station line I don't have a problem with it.

He's a teen, trapped on a nowhere planet, doing a boring job for a domineering dream quashing uncle.

He could leave at anytime but stays out of a sense of responsibility and yet Owen is still ordering him around like a small child.

It makes perfect sense that he would be resentful and whine while simultaneously attempting to justify his limited chances at relaxing from his tedious life as something work related to his ungrateful parent figure.

He doesn't know what Owen's genuine fears are or what is causing him to hold Luke back so he is kicking against what he sees.

All things considering Luke's reaction is surprising mild.

Bingowings said:

As for the Tosche station line I don't have a problem with it.

He's a teen, trapped on a nowhere planet, doing a boring job for a domineering dream quashing uncle.

He could leave at anytime but stays out of a sense of responsibility and yet Owen is still ordering him around like a small child.

It makes perfect sense that he would be resentful and whine while simultaneously attempting to justify his limited chances at relaxing from his tedious life as something work related to his ungrateful parent figure.

He doesn't know what Owen's genuine fears are or what is causing him to hold Luke back so he is kicking against what he sees.

All things considering Luke's reaction is surprising mild.

I've always felt weird about that bit in The Empire Strikes Back when 3PO decides to go all Ric Olie on us during the carbonite encasement scene. This is a tense moment where one of our heroes may be dead, and yet 3PO insists on happily spouting explanatory dialogue, the gist of which we've actually already heard...

3PO: What? What's going on? Turn around, Chewbacca, I can't see! Ooh, they've encased him in carbonite! He should be quite well protected, if he survives the freezing process, that is.

Yeah...thanks, 3PO, we've just been given that information a few minutes ago in an exchange between Lando and Vader, and a little less obtusely, if you don't mind my saying. In fact, you sound surprisingly up-beat about all this...

Everybody else is falling apart in mourning, Leia, Chewbacca and even the two-faced Lando, yet you seem to be feeling pretty groovy...

Han's attitude can't have annoyed you that much, right?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I get that, but it still seems seems odd that Luke would get upset over a simple matter of not being able to buy machine parts right away. If the power converters had been written as a local band Luke wanted to see perform with his friends or something along those lines, it would have been better IMO. As the line is, though, it just comes off as unintentionally funny.

Threepio completes the Ric circle by pointing out Captain Solo in Jabba's Palace, still encased in Carbonite, while a image of that is dangling in front of our eyes.

TheoOdo said:

3PO: What? What's going on? Turn around, Chewbacca, I can't see! Ooh, they've encased him in carbonite! He should be quite well protected, if he survives the freezing process, that is.

I assume this delivered an Academy Award?

All of 3P0's emotional reactions seem to be a bit distant and imitated, if you look closely.

He doesn't really mind telling the stormtroopers that the others went to the prison section (I think?); he kinda accepts serving under Jabba; he readily accepts "new masters" as soon as he's sold to someone else; he doesn't come off as terribly despaired after getting blown apart, and yes, he doesn't seem to be awfully sad about Han, either.
With all that, he obviously shows a lot of personality that could be described as annoyed, concerned, afraid, grumpy, self-centered, compliant, etc.

So why do we care about him? He still shows sympathetic traits (with all the unsympathetic ones being played for laughs), and basically entertains us with his personality (and the fact that it's coming from a robot).
I don't think there's any point in the three films where we truly care for C-3P0 in terms of his well-being or safety - we kinda know he'll get out of this, there is no real threat or fear involved, and he seems to be less involved in the situation than a human would be, too.

How that works? Suspension of disbelief, I guess.

Point is, I find the robot torture scene hilarious :D
Jabba's place is supposed to come off as dangerous and cynical, but at the same time quirky and amusing in dark way.
That torture scene fits that perfectly.

But that's just my perspective.

Maybe when they're stuck in the garbage hole, and they hear a noise from under the water, and Han says "it IS worse", but then quickly replies to Luke's concern "yea, your imagination, kid".

Either a brilliant form of subtle characterization (he's grumpy and doesn't mind pointing out when things look bad, but at the same time wants to appear in control and above it all), or... a sloppy form of crude characterization (insert a grumpy line here, insert a hollywood skeptic line there).

His delivery makes me go for the former :)


EDIT: FORMER, FORMER... I meant FORMER! :D

i know... somehow.. i've always known...

DuracellEnergizer said:

And then there is this little exchange.

"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father"

"He told me enough! He told me you killed him".

Not bad dialogue, really, but what's with the emphasis on "you"?

• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."
• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."
• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."

Nope. I think Hamill's was the right choice.

"You look absolutely beautiful. You truly belong here with us among the clouds." Sorry Lando, but that's just cheesy, not charming.

TheBoost said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And then there is this little exchange.

"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father"

"He told me enough! He told me you killed him".

Not bad dialogue, really, but what's with the emphasis on "you"?

• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."
• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."
• "He told me enough. He told me you killed him."

 

Nope. I think Hamill's was the right choice.

Alternatively, he could have emphasized "killed", or even avoided emphasis altogether ;-)

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'd make Carrie do another take of "I recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board" without the bad English accent.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Han's line about the Kessel run should have been fixed because the use of "parsecs" makes no sense (it's a unit of distance).

We must DO something QUICKLY Governor, our people are DYING.

Oh, George, how could you waste Natalie so badly?

TK-949 said:

Kessel is a hive of black holes. You have to fly gigantic curves to escape the gravitational fields of the black holes. But Han's ship is fast enough to fly smaller curves, therefore his way is shorter than other's.