bkev said:
Cap, you're really grinding my gears here! :l to each his own of course, I'm mostly kidding.
Didn't mean to grind so much. ;) I like a good film discussion.
Tommy. What a bizarre trip. I watched it buzzed so I enjoyed it, but I think if I was sober it'd be a god awful experience.
That's Ken Russell for you. On any of his films you come out feeling like you've had a bad acid trip. I've never decided whether I loved or was confused by Billion Dollar Brain.
RedFive said:
ChainsawAsh said:
Same here. I like it about as much as I like the other Indy sequels, which is to say sort of but not really.
I know, people complained about how 'ridiculous' certain scenes were, and how goofy it was. Did they not see the other movies?
I think people tend to remember what they liked about something over what they didn't, and get an idea in their head that it's something other than what it really is.
I did. Many times. Even with their flaws they can be enjoyed. For these types of films my benchmark is usually: "would this have worked as a 30's serial?" But during Indy IV, I just wanted to get out of the theater as fast as humanly possible. It went quickly from what? to huh? to wait a minute? to please no! to what happened to no CGI? to you're not Brando! to why would you? to you said they weren't related! to make it stop! to even "no no please don't get up"! Normally I dislike a movie. Very few make me feel so beaten. And that is why to me this film is so bad that it never happened.
This is one of those where I don't understand the love for it, but if you like Indy IV, more power to you. Most people think I'm crazy for liking Temple and insisting that Crusade is flawed.
Die Hard 4 is another story, but that's because they changed it to PG-13. I still didn't hate it, but I don't think I'll watch it again.
I thought the Unrated cut would help some in that regard. It adds a bit more Die Hard-esque violence that is needed but because of the use of alternate takes and dialogue kinda feels like a workprint. Still it works better overall than Vengeance. (aka Lethal Weapon 4 Pt. 1)