its turn Phily has always been about size and strength, not feness and speed. they reallly doo need to get faster smarter players. no offence the premeau but he does have like 6 concussions, same with ronnik. but dont worry man vancouver has the same problems, they have too much speed, skill and feness. in a non contact league vancouver would hall ass around the league. the bottem line is that they need size, more then jsut bert they need one more power centre to put with the twins if they got that. man would they be a force. the truth is thou, that they did have that in magnus ardvison but they he broke his leg. you look at vancouver inthe first half of the year. we where first int he west and they were in a race for first in the league.