Legend:
8 - As close to perfect as possible
7 - Great
6 - Very Good
5 - Good
4 - Average
3 - Poor
2 - Bad
1 - Terrible
Star Wars: 8
Empire Strikes Back: 7
Return of the Jedi: 6
The Phantom Menace: 2
Attack of the Clones: 1
Revenge of the Sith: 2
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
Really, you should be using the ball rating system established by (I think) a spam bot in off-topic.
So then...out of 8 balls...
SW - 7 balls
ESB - 7 balls
ROTJ - 4 balls
TPM - 4 balls
AOTC - 2 balls
ROTC - 3 balls
TRM - 10 balls (projected)
And yes, I actually like TPM about the same as ROTJ. *shrug*
Incidentally, I've seen fanedits of the prequels that easily add a couple balls.
EDIT: Definitely a spambot.
TV's Frink said:
ROTJ - 4 balls
TPM - 4 balls
And yes, I actually like TPM about the same as ROTJ. *shrug*
*minor stroke*
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
There were a lot of problems with ROTJ, and a lot of stuff I liked in TPM. Granted, nothing in ROTJ is as bad as Jar Jar, but in my mind ROTJ is just middling, while TPM had some nice highs and terrible lows.
I averaged it all out and they both ended up at 4 balls. I'll show my work if necessary.
TV's Frink said:
I'll show my work if necessary.
For having such audacity you damn well better!
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
Ha-ha, I didn't really do any work.
SW - 9/10
ESB - 10/10
ROTJ - 6/10
TPM - 5/10
AOTC - 1/10
ROTS - 2/10
^this
ChainsawAsh said:
SW - 9/10
ESB - 10/10
ROTJ - 6/10
TPM - 5/10
AOTC - 1/10
ROTS - 2/10
You've ignored both the OP rating system and the ball rating system.
:-(
SW 9/10
ESB 10/10
ROTJ 8/10
TPM 1
AOTC 2
ROTS 3
TV's Frink said:
ChainsawAsh said:
SW - 9/10
ESB - 10/10
ROTJ - 6/10
TPM - 5/10
AOTC - 1/10
ROTS - 2/10
You've ignored both the OP rating system and the ball rating system.
:-(
Yeah, but who rates something out of 8 total points?
And I didn't say what units I was using. It could very easily be X out of 10 balls...
The Phantom Menace - 2/8
Attack Of The Clones - 8/8
Revenge Of The Sith - 4/8
Star Wars a.k.a A New Hope - 8/8
The Empire Strikes Back - 8/8
Return Of The Jedi - 1/8
Attack of the Clones 8/8?
If my giving TPM and ROTJ each 4 balls gave tpr a minor stroke, that will certainly kill him.
And Chainsaw, the ball rating system is not yet the prevailing rating system in the civilized world, so it must be referenced as much as possible to avoid confusion. Sorry, but the spambots speak and we must listen.
Star Wars- 8
The Empire Strikes Back- 8
Return of the Jedi- 5
The Phantom Menace- 3
Attack of the Clones- 0 (It doesn't deserve a 1)
Revenge of the Sith- 4
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
Star Wars1977 Perfect.
Empire Strikes Back While I'm not really a fan of the movie anymore, I do recognize the superb production value. I also like a few parts of the film and think they more than hold their own in the world of Star Wars. The Dagobah sequence is interesting and done very well. My favorite parts of the film, however, are the outside scenes during the Cloud City portion - approach & landing and Luke hanging under the city. Regardless of story, the aesthetics of the shots (oranges, reds, warmth, darkness, etc) are worth watching. Best single moment of the film - Luke hanging under the city.
Return Of The Jedi The beginning of the end for me, but I gave it a partial solely for slave Leia and the Redwood Forest speeder chase.
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
ChainsawAsh said:
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
Stop dancing around the issue Chainsaw; tell me how you really feel.
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
theprequelsrule said:
ChainsawAsh said:
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
Stop dancing around the issue Chainsaw; tell me how you really feel.
I don't think he should until you answer for this crazy 8-ball system.
TV's Frink said:
theprequelsrule said:
ChainsawAsh said:
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
Stop dancing around the issue Chainsaw; tell me how you really feel.
I don't think he should until you answer for this crazy 8-ball system.
I'm quite fond of it. It came to me in a moment of inspiration in the middle of writing the post. If you quiet your mind Frink you can hear the midichlorians whispering the 8-ball system to you too.
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
ChainsawAsh said:
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
To me, AotC is the best of the PT. Which isn't saying much, since I don't know that I would give any of them more than 1 or 2 balls (out of 1 million). But AotC neither sets up the failure nor concludes the failure. Also, I was somewhat intrigued by the mystery it set up (which RotS fails to follow-up) and I think it had the least offensive content. It was most 'meh' of them all, which mean it was least 'blerch' of the three.
So I don't LOVE AotC. But it's the one I would most likely watch if forced to choose one of the three.
1 ball out of 10 balls.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
theprequelsrule said:
TV's Frink said:
theprequelsrule said:
ChainsawAsh said:
pittrek said:
Wow, am I the only person who LOVES AOTC ?
I think so. That movie's a worthless piece of dogshit if you ask me. No redeeming value whatsoever, and that isn't hyperbole on my part.
Stop dancing around the issue Chainsaw; tell me how you really feel.
I don't think he should until you answer for this crazy 8-ball system.
I'm quite fond of it. It came to me in a moment of inspiration in the middle of writing the post. If you quiet your mind Frink you can hear the midichlorians whispering the 8-ball system to you too.
When I quiet my mind, all I hear is Qui-Gon's ipod playing "Friday" by Rebecca Black.
I always rate films out of 4 stars. (well out of 5 on mubi.com but that's just because they're being trendier) SW and ESB have different aims and they both exceed these so much that I can't choose between them.
SW: 4 out of 4 stars.
ESB: 4 out of 4 stars.
ROTJ: I know it's not as strong a movie, but it is supposed to be a serial adventure, so I have to say 4 out of 4 stars.
TPM: 3 out of 4 stars. It works well as a standalone movie. It drags in parts, has very bad attempts at humor, odd plot strands and odd pacing-but it isn't a bad film.
AOTC: For some reason I feel as if I should stick up for this one somehow. Also not a terrible film but not good either. It just floats by...you may want to like parts of it...but you don't. It's just some cartoon colors with people wandering around. I had to see this for various reasons about four different times in theaters-once in an omnimax dome. The horror. Oh dear oh dear. 2 out of 4 stars.
ROTS: This is where I gave up entirely. Just plain unwatchable, tedious, mindless, boring, un-involving crap. The whole time I just wanted it to end. Nothing is a surprise, nothing is interesting, nothing is memorable and the end result makes you feel disgusted with yourself for even trying to watch this piece of crap. Oddly enough, I enjoyed the novelization-but oh that's because it had characters instead of cardboard cutouts and some actual thoughts going on in people's heads instead of memorized pointless dialogue. An over-generous 1.5 stars out of 4.
The Clone Wars-You forgot about this one didn't you? But just why was this made? Why? and even more, why was it theatrically released? 2 stars out of 4.
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Maybe I've just watched RedLetterMedia too much (and boy, I have), but I firmly believe that the quality of a movie of this kind, as such, is primarily decided by the characters, their arcs, and the structure of the story.
I realize movies can have other goodies worth watching (special effects, aesthetics, ideas, interesting plot, cool one-liners, whatever - the Nostalgia Critic likes Matrix Reloaded because... it doesn't focus on the characters he disliked anyway, but has lots of cool action and pseudo-philosophy), but if you just rate movies as a whole?
I mean, come on, people.
ROTJ may have a few scenes where Ford acts kinda weird, and have its weaker parts on Endor, but it still has a charismatic, strong protagonist with an effective arc and awesome climax, strong villains, genuine and entertaining characters, and overall strong emotional involvement.
ANH may not have the emotion, but all of the fun, character and structure.
Please, what does TPM have to be compared to that, in any way?
Not a single main character you can really identify with, or follow. Qui-Gon wants to train the boy, Obi-Wan wins the battle, Anakin the podrace. Padme wins her case.
All of these characters, a few moments and lines aside, range from boring and bland to annoying.
The story is an incoherent mess because it can't even establish the villains' motivations, or, I dunno, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE DAMN MOVIE.
The final duel may be epic, but in terms of character, it's earth and heaven when compared to ROTJ.
Sure, the movie's kinda fast-paced and fun at places, sometimes it even feels almost alive... and the same goes for II and III, but I maybe has the least of the "boring pretentious dialogue" stuff... but come on?
Just wondering whether the people giving the two movies the same (or almost) the same thing have actually thought things through. :)
twooffour said:
blah blah blah
Were you planning on rating the films like everyone else, or just lecturing us as usual?