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For the record, I loved the ending of Lost. It was a series about the mystery of life and how we each come to terms with our own "answer" to that mystery, and the finale honored that theme well. The mysteries of the series were about more than just what looked cool or got people hooked, although that was certainly a part. Lost's mysteries were representative of life's mysteries, and the myths we tell ourselves to make sense of the confusing and oftentimes overwhelming world we find ourselves in. I'd go more deeply into that here, but I don't want to lecture, or spoil things for Frink and anyone who's still watching the series. Part of life is accepting that not everything has an answer. I get it: some people don't want to watch a TV show like that. If a gun is brought out in Act 1, they want to see it used by Act 3. I understand that, and for those people, Lost must've been disappointing. But for me, I found the analogues to real life --  to the struggle of searching for answers and accepting or rejecting what we find -- to be extremely poignant and well-executed most of the time. I'd say 90% of the mysteries introduced in the series have either explicit or implicit answers, and of the other 10%, I'd say less than half can really boil down to writer/producer incompetence or negligence. Lost was modern mythology, and like all universal mythology, its answers were not as easy to come by or as immediately obvious as they would be on a simple TV show.

Lost was not a perfect series by any means, but I think it succeeded quite well at what it set out to do, which was tell an extremely interesting myth about the human condition that repeatedly challenges and thwarts its viewers' expectations.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-LEXmsd7wg

Season 1 Deleted Scene that proves that it was all planned out ahead of time.

 

I guess I'll have to eat my hat!

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I only got as far as the pilot but since I'm currently enjoying the very silly Fringe I might give it another go.

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asterisk8 said:

For the record, I loved the ending of Lost. It was a series about the mystery of life and how we each come to terms with our own "answer" to that mystery, and the finale honored that theme well. The mysteries of the series were about more than just what looked cool or got people hooked, although that was certainly a part. Lost's mysteries were representative of life's mysteries, and the myths we tell ourselves to make sense of the confusing and oftentimes overwhelming world we find ourselves in. I'd go more deeply into that here, but I don't want to lecture, or spoil things for Frink and anyone who's still watching the series. Part of life is accepting that not everything has an answer. I get it: some people don't want to watch a TV show like that. If a gun is brought out in Act 1, they want to see it used by Act 3. I understand that, and for those people, Lost must've been disappointing. But for me, I found the analogues to real life --  to the struggle of searching for answers and accepting or rejecting what we find -- to be extremely poignant and well-executed most of the time. I'd say 90% of the mysteries introduced in the series have either explicit or implicit answers, and of the other 10%, I'd say less than half can really boil down to writer/producer incompetence or negligence. Lost was modern mythology, and like all universal mythology, its answers were not as easy to come by or as immediately obvious as they would be on a simple TV show.

Lost was not a perfect series by any means, but I think it succeeded quite well at what it set out to do, which was tell an extremely interesting myth about the human condition that repeatedly challenges and thwarts its viewers' expectations.

I wouldn't say so.

If they wanted to do one about "eternally unresolved mysteries", they wouldn't have handed the "contrived checkbox fairytale answers in a pill" at the end.
The mystery of "The Island" and "The Unseen Monster" was far more intriguing than "magic light at a water that makes you evil"; different people brought together my mysterious fate much more interesting than "god dude touches them once in their lives so they get to the island as candidates".
They should've left it at that if their goal was what you describe - but no, they had promised resolutions and answers, and they tried to deliver them, and well how that turned out.


The only thing I could imagine is that the cheesy answers were supposed to tell the viewer "stop trying to find the answers to those mysteries, because they might not be as interesting as the mystery", or maybe how silly religious teachings and myths are in comparison.
I mean, much more intriguing and beautiful to ponder "is there fate", or "is there an intelligence behind the world", or "how did this come to be", then "an angry petty God created it and he controls stuff, so there".
And that's exactly how the final "answers" came off.

But that'd be less of a "brilliant piece of mythological art", and more of a meta joke at the audience.

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xhonzi said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-LEXmsd7wg

Season 1 Deleted Scene that proves that it was all planned out ahead of time.

 

I guess I'll have to eat my hat!

That's what I love about Lost.

I'm not sure when it all started, or whether it was conceived as a form of damage control to the inevitable trainwreck, but some time before the show ended, they produced several parody clips with the original actors and Jimmy Kimmel (played at his show) lampooning the show as it went along.
The crypto speak, the plot, the answers, the authors picking through absurd endings from other shows... just self-deprecation without end.

At least they realize what nonsense they ended up with, and keep making fun of it. Props to them.

(Not that unique, though - the Wachowskis sorta lampooned their story in Path of Neo, and I hear George Lucas likes Robot Chicken - but I'm not familiar with that one)

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The "deleted" scene is hilarious I'm wondering when it was shot.

Season 6 was really disappointing, the answers seemed rushed, the main actors looked bored besides they had 3 seasons to solve all the mysteries and they did the opposite by asking more questions in season 4 and 5.

The writers should have taken example from the UK shows Life on Mars an Ashes to Ashes, probably the best shows I have ever seen

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They have a similar ending but unlike Lost they knew when to stop before it got repetitive or impossible to solve

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The ending of A2A is almost as bad as the ending to the American LOM (though I really liked the series itself).

The ending of the UK LOM is a good example of a 'not explaining it all' ending.

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Bingowings said:

The ending of A2A is almost as bad as the ending to the American LOM (though I really liked the series itself).

Um, I've just read the synopsis, but it sounded pretty awesome.
He's in the imaginary world again and chooses to "tune out" the truth and the doctor... he's now in his other reality with his girlfriend or something... but then someone comes along and switches off the screen!

Ain't that cool?

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LforLiving said:

The "deleted" scene is hilarious I'm wondering when it was shot.

I don't know, but the actor who played Jacob was announced to have been taken on board for the ending of season 5.
And they were referencing season 6 events all the time. So pretty sure it was shot somewhere during that, of after.

The possibly that it was shot during season 1 is as probable as the crocoduck, LOL.

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I'm of the right age and from the right place to find this test card utterly terrifying

and yet burned into my mind via repetition.

So her inclusion in LOM was a masterstroke which would probably go over most non-UK residents and youngsters heads.

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Bingowings said:

The ending of the UK LOM is a good example of a 'not explaining it all' ending.

Agreed, as much as I enjoy A2A, the ending to the UK LoM is perfect. It doesn't explain it all to you and leave a lot open for interpretation, but over all it is an extremely satisfying ending. I had always hoped Lost would kind of go that path and leave a lot of mysteries a bit vague.

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The video was shot last month or something, just for SDCC. No grand conspiracy, just wanted some laughs at their own expense.

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I didn't see the US version of LOM, I heard it was quite bad though.

A2A was not a perfect show but the last season and particularly the ending were very good.

 

The final episode answered to all questions regarding Sam and Alex and the twist about Gene was really interresting.

The door of the bar being the door to heaven was a nice touch and Nelson being somekind of St Peter corresponded to the character.

Besides I'm glad the writers choose not to have a happy ending.

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LforLiving said:

I didn't see the US version of LOM, I heard it was quite bad though.

That WHAT?!? US version of Life on Mars? That is ridiculous! Life on Mars is a fantastic show, who in their right mind would ever think of making other versions of it? Not even the Americans would do something that dumb; that would be like someone repainting Mona Lisa because they think she should be blond, or that she would be better received among a Nordic audience if she were blond.

No, fortunately LOM is only a show from the UK. Wait... This pretending the parts you don't like don't exist joke is getting kind of old these days, isn't it?

 

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Imagine how it'd be if they remade that awesome Spanish film "Open Your Eyes" and made the jealous lover character a blonde... she'd probably be played by Cameron Diaz or something... uggh.

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see, what we really need is a british version of LOST. Then they'll get everything right. 

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But then they'd make Hurley a French or something, and we wouldn't get his pop culture gags!!

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That video was hilarious

twooffour said:

Imagine how it'd be if they remade that awesome Spanish film "Open Your Eyes" and made the jealous lover character a blonde... she'd probably be played by Cameron Diaz or something... uggh.

Vanilla Sky was awesome, you're terrible.


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RedFive said:

That video was hilarious

twooffour said:

Imagine how it'd be if they remade that awesome Spanish film "Open Your Eyes" and made the jealous lover character a blonde... she'd probably be played by Cameron Diaz or something... uggh.

Vanilla Sky was awesome, you're terrible.

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RedFive said:

twooffour said:

Imagine how it'd be if they remade that awesome Spanish film "Open Your Eyes" and made the jealous lover character a blonde... she'd probably be played by Cameron Diaz or something... uggh.

 


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RedFive said:

That video was hilarious

twooffour said:

Imagine how it'd be if they remade that awesome Spanish film "Open Your Eyes" and made the jealous lover character a blonde... she'd probably be played by Cameron Diaz or something... uggh.

Vanilla Sky was awesome, you're terrible.

Ugh, no.  Vanilla Sky was terrible.  And I'm not just saying that because it's a remake - I quite like both Let the Right One In and the English-language remake (Let Me In).

But Vanilla Sky is vastly inferior to Open Your Eyes.