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adywan said:

I totally forgot the main reason i came in here in the first place. lol. I posted this earlier over in the facebook group:

OK, i have come to a major decision regarding the prequels. I will be approaching these in a completely different way to how i am with the OT. I have decided that, instead of concentrating on one movie at a time, that ALL THREE will be done simultaneously. Madness, i hear you all cry. Well, yes it is pretty insane but it's actually a pretty logical move.

Now the prequels aren't going to be like the OT:Revisited saga. With the OT it has only been minor editing changes (well part from ROTJ:R) but the PT really need a major overhaul. A LOT of editing will be done. Now working on all three will really help with this. Say, for instance, that i have an idea of how the story flows in TPM that will later affect something in say ROTS then, if i finish that one first only to find that i can't pull it off when i get to ROTS, i will hit a huge stumbling block and the whole trilogy would fall apart. This way i can make sure that this doesn't happen as i will be able to try the changes out in the later films as i work on the first. Plus, as many of the locations are featured in all three films, and miniatures i need to build can be all filmed and used for each movie without the chance that these will either get damaged or that i won't have the room to store everything. And another thing, i will most likely need to film extra scenes/ inserts and if i needed someone for a character in TPM and then later in AOTC/ ROTS there is the chance that this person/ persons wouldn't be available and could put a stop me being able to finish what i started.

So there you go. Complete and utter madness and a huge workload but this can be done and is really the only possible way i can accomplish what i want to do with the prequels.

That's the logical thing to do if you have the means and time to sink in such a huge challenge like PT:R.

I think we're all curious about how's Adywan like when he goes radical :)

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First off, i want to apologize to adywan. I made some stupid assumptions without doing some research to back it up. Also adywan, I want to hope you the best in getting everything on the homefront situated.

Happy to hear about the PT. Thats whats I want to hear.

But i hope everyone here sort of sees what i was trying to say. Even though it wasnt thought through.



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Sounds good, Ady!  Very exciting, even if it's years away.  Does this mean all three will be released at once?

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I guess no rpvee, I think Ady might be referring to a common PT "plot" phase, where all three movies could be worked as a whole in order to improve the story arc and see what works and what doesn't, while there could still be a time after that, when the movies are treated individually, a "technical" phase (?) concerning the "classical" revisited job (enhancing mattes, Colour Correction, etc.)

But ofc, I'm just guessing, Adywan has the real answer.

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The "whole Prequel enchilada"  sounds like an idea people have wished Lucas had done with the prequel scripts: wished he had written all three out before shooting a frame of film to cover the character and story arcs.

Sounds like an excellent idea to me.

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Mithrandir said:

I guess no rpvee, I think Ady might be referring to a common PT "plot" phase, where all three movies could be worked as a whole in order to improve the story arc and see what works and what doesn't, while there could still be a time after that, when the movies are treated individually, a "technical" phase (?) concerning the "classical" revisited job (enhancing mattes, Colour Correction, etc.)

But ofc, I'm just guessing, Adywan has the real answer.

That's a good point too.  But you're right, Ady has the real answer.

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......or will they end up as one or two episodes....its a huge job to try and make sense of them, I'm sure you already have a better story in your head than Lucas gave us.

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I agree, I think it's a much better idea. So much of the plot of ROTS got changed after the film was supposed to have been shot, it's clear Lucas didn't have a detailed idea of what he wanted to happen from the get-go.

Of course, this might mean a gap of several years between ROTJ:R and TPM:R, but hands up anyone inclined to whine about this?

Didn't think so.

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That is a great idea, IMO, it sounds crazy at first but then, it could actually save Ady a lot of work in the long run.

Also, it would be awesome if Anakin's original turn was amongst the deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray, as it sounded much more believable and cooler than what we got in the end.

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Difficult as it must be sometimes, people who post on here and encounter non-constructive criticism should just mentally put it to one side.

I say this from people who make projects like Ady all the way down to people who post a few times with suggestions and mockups.

People who moan about a project they aren't contributing to taking 'too long' doesn't constitute constructive criticism and should be ignored or if you like taken as a complement. People were so impressed by your previous work they want more fast.

It shouldn't be a cause for feeling pressured.

If you read something that doesn't help you get to where you want to go at a pace you are comfortable with, it wasn't written, you just dreamt it.

As for Ady's approach to doing the PT:R, it makes sense.

It follows the pattern that Jackson used for filming the Lord Of The Rings Extended Cuts and it allows enough room for fine tweaking each episode after filming the new elements has been initially completed.

The PT live action feels more uniform than the OT so it should be easier to asset strip and reshuffle the old footage and carried over elements with new footage than with the first three films (and the first two are pretty close to perfection anyway story, performance and direction wise so they wouldn't need that sort of massive restructuring anyway).

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Ziggy Stardust said:

Harmy said:

Is that a Humdinger at the bottom?

;-)

I was gonna ask that!

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I'm finishing reading Michael Kaminski's The Secret History of Star Wars, which I recommend you all; there you will read that GL had no idea what to do with Episodes I & II, because he had only good stuff for just one movie...

So Ady's idea to condense the important stuff and cut the rest, maybe will produce one or two good films, as other friends have said before :)

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Personally I wonder how many people will stop following the project after ANHRSEHD. I just hope the "you can't save the prequels!" naysayers will be content and not discouraging.

As you can see, Ady has been thinking about this longer than Lucas ever did.

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I just couldn't help but think of how he might build a model for one movie and have it in another, yet one movie (TPM, perhaps), might look real, but the other (ROTS and parts of AOTC) will look like a video game.

Weird to see so many non-ESB:R posts in a row, but Ady started it. ;)

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Doing the 3 movies in the same time sounds like a great idea !

 

I'm wondering will you take inspiration from the Phantom editor or will or make a more radical edit ?

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Ady,

 

You do what you need to do when you need to do it. ESB-R gets delayed....it gets delayed. Do not listen to the people who whine about how long it seems to be taking.

The rest of us are here for you.

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if you are pooling your time/resources for the PT, would it be worth putting ROTJ in the pool too?

considering the possibility for additional shots for that, and including visual and narrative links to the PT could produce a more cohesive saga? or are you approaching it more as two trilogies?

great news though, and a very sensible choice!

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RotJR will have new shots and effects. But no prequel stuff. Adywan wants the prequels to fit in with the originals.

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Well, considering Ady's prequels will be OTish, Adywan could put some elements of HIS prequels into ROTJ:R without betraying himself, couldn't he?

For instance, I read he's willing to replace the imperial shuttle in which Han flies to Endor with another shuttle. We know from the movie things like the shuttle calls the attention of the imperial officer by some reason, and that it has "an old security code" by the time of ROTJ.

Now suppose Ady finds, or designs, or inserts in PT:R some ship meant to be a Republic shuttle, then he could use it again in ROTJ:R as the old ship the rebels use to infiltrate...

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Ripplin said:

Weird to see so many non-ESB:R posts in a row

Back to ESB:R

Ady did you do any tests with the new camera you got? any test runs to see if it has the results you want?

 

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Mithrandir said:

Now suppose Ady finds, or designs, or inserts in PT:R some ship meant to be a Republic shuttle, then he could use it again in ROTJ:R as the old ship the rebels use to infiltrate...

I like the idea of that, seeing perhaps a pristine shuttle at the birth of the Empire and returning in ROTJ a bit dog-eared....when i heard that the Falcon was to make an appearance in ROTS, it looked exactly the same as we know it...only with a different paint job!.....its a pity we couldn't have seen a YT-1300 without any of Han's modifications....less than a piece of junk...with no missing panels etc.

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Mithrandir said:


Well, considering Ady's prequels will be OTish, Adywan could put some elements of HIS prequels into ROTJ:R without betraying himself, couldn't he?

For instance, I read he's willing to replace the imperial shuttle in which Han flies to Endor with another shuttle. We know from the movie things like the shuttle calls the attention of the imperial officer by some reason, and that it has "an old security code" by the time of ROTJ.

Now suppose Ady finds, or designs, or inserts in PT:R some ship meant to be a Republic shuttle, then he could use it again in ROTJ:R as the old ship the rebels use to infiltrate...
Not a bad idea, but I've always thought the "older code" was like a week out of date, not years. It's not supposed to be a long lost freighter, it's supposed to be a supply ship that's a week late.

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Angel said:



Ripplin said:

Weird to see so many non-ESB:R posts in a row


Back to ESB:R
Let's not forget who started the conversation. :p

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doubleofive said:

RotJR will have new shots and effects. But no prequel stuff. Adywan wants the prequels to fit in with the originals.

yes, well aware of that, but surely if the new PT is to fit in with the OT there should be some concrete links between them? loose plotlines tied up in rotj that concludes all five preceeding films other than just the two that preceeded it originally.