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The Aluminum Falcon
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Info: a Smear-free '93 ?
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28-Jul-2011, 4:30 AM

msycamore said:

to be honest with you... it looks very bad, in which way did you capture it?

Oh heh...right... :P... I do appreciate your honesty; it looks pretty bad to me too. I actually captured it with a Toshiba DVD Recorder connected by high quality composite connections to a Pioneer LD-V850. It was captured on SP (2 hour) mode, so it's not the best quality. Pretty low-tech. It was the first laserdisc I transferred and mostly just a test.

maybe someone with more knowledge in the field of LD-capturing could give you some suggestions on what to do to get some better results, there is some very nasty artifacts on it.

If anyone has any suggestions to better my captures, I'd be very glad to hear them. I'd love to know better ways if possible. I'd also like to know info about my model: Pioneer LD-V850 whether it's good or bad.

One way I know to improve it straight of the bat is to use XP (1 hour) mode while recording. It gives better quality and possibly more accurate to the LD source.

However, thinking about it, some of the nasty artifacts in the clip I posted may be caused by DVD to XVID conversion.

I doubt that sample represents the overall look of your LD, my Pioneer pressing looks pretty damn good and there's no reason your Mitsubishi pressing should look any different if it weren't for in the way you captured it.

After reading your post, msycamore, I decided to recapture some of the scenes in question. This time I used XP mode, for higher quality and PCM audio. I also used better composite connections (the fancy ones that came with my OPPO DVD player). This means that there should be very little loss in capturing.

The disc I made has roughly 10 minutes worth of scenes. The first five minutes are from my Mitsubishi Special Widescreen Edition. They are on the DVD's first title: JUN/ 27/11 10:58PM L1 XP. They are a mixture of scenes with holograms and other random scenes (which show the overall quality of the laserdisc). To be honest with you, the picture only improved slightly from my original capture, but, this capture has not lost much detail in the transfer to laserdisc. Any imperfections, or dirty images, is actually how my laserdisc looks and not due to transfer. If Mitsubishi's pressings were faulty........... ARGH! >:O Perhaps your Pioneer pressing was pressed in a higher quality way and looks superior, though why the scan lines for the strangling scene would be less detailed on a high quality transfer baffles me.

Anyway, as for the next five minutes, they are from my ESB 1997 SE laserdisc, which I believe is close to reference laserdisc quality. This is the second title, labeled: JUN/ 27/11 11:20PM L1 XP. They are the exact same clips as in the SWE. The purpose of this title was just to demonstrate the overall quality of my set-up/capturing method/laserdisc player and how much detail it loses (not much, IMO). In my honest opinion, this definitely looked pretty good for a laserdisc, so my laserdisc player and setup seems to not be the cause of any "bad picture"/artifacts in the SWE transfer.

You can download my new DVD at:

 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YJCSDH93

Note that this is an ISO file to be opened with WinRAR. It will then give you the VIDEO_TS folder, which you can handle anyway you want. I decided to upload the entire DVD this time, as to not risk any accidental artifacting from Xvid conversion.

Hopefully, this will be closer to your expectations. Looking forward to your comments...

They could still be made from the same master, the Emperor hologram in the GOUT doesn't have the scanlines visible even though they are on the US '93 DC LD.

This was just a side question, but are there differences between the GOUT and the DC? Sorry I just didn't know this. Are the GOUT and Faces an exact match then (minus the ANH/SW crawl change of course)?

EDIT: Had one more thought. Is Dark_jedi's old Special Widescreen Edition transfer from a Pioneer pressing or Mitsubishi pressing? How does it compare to mine? How do the scan line patterns look?