Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 159

having followed this thread for a long time now.

It's so funny that the material released about the upcoming Blu Ray set only features stuff from the OT: Deleted Scenes Teaser & Comic-Con Death Star Attack.

It's even more funny that most of the comments on the blu-ray section on the official site http://www.starwars.com/movies/saga/ are not positive. I suggest, you join the commentary section and insert your 2 cents!

Regarding leaking of the final blu-ray disks: DarthFirst got his hands on the Trilogy DVDs in July 2004 for the September 2004 release http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1465&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=d0789123bf220a83d0740aa61e741a16. So we could say that the final disks should already be pressed by this time. With any luck the blu-rays will leak soon.

I don't understand why LFL did use the new transfer for the Episode I blu-ray. From point of sale this will reduce the quality improvement for the Episode I 3D blu-ray. After all they will only have 3D & unreleased bonus features as sellers for the 2013 blu-ray. But I don't care too much about the PT anyway ;)

Alexrd said:

Harmy said:

Although, what I find curious is that it is documented that there were digital projections of TPM in 99, so why didn't they use the digital copy made for those projections for the DVD?

I had the same question myself.

 The EpI DVD does not contain the theatrical version but the DVD-Version of EpI. Nevertheless they could have used the digital copy as a base.

Hey folks:

Not sure if anyone else caught this, but some folks at Millenniumfalcon.com made some comparison images based on a few new stills released on the new Blu-Ray official site (http://www.starwars.com/movies/saga/).

The comparison thread is here: http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=165608#165608

It looks to me that some of the crushed blacks have been improved. The Jedi shot looks brighter, but not in a way suggesting someone just artificially pumped up the levels from the 2004 source. The detail that would have been blown out by the crushed blacks (like stars, some of the detail in the Death Star) look like it's there again. Could just be that the final transfer to 480p in 2004 removed a lot of this and was further darkened, and this is the "real" way the 2004 transfer was meant to look.

Also, if you compare the twin sunset shot with the comparison images on these forums, it appears to have the same colour cast, but it's not nearly as dark.

Cautiously hopeful that the transfer will be a bit nicer.

If you track back a bit Lestrade, it's the same transfer (for the OT:SE) that was used for the 2004 DVDs with what looks like a gamma shift.

Which has awful effects on the picture.

TPM appears to be a new transfer and there appears to be some alteration to AOTC but that doesn't mean it's a new transfer.

Look, I know I'll probably get shot down for this,....I've probably been living in Jaitea's world for a while...but I've just had a moment of clarity....you guys have probably already seen it, but all this Lucasfilm reluctance all makes sense to me now. 

Lucasfilm decides to release special editions of the Original Trilogy at the end of the Ninety's.....this would require the films to be digitally scanned, (don't know what resolution but lets say 2k) this new canvas would allow them to digitally paint whatever they thought would enhance the movies and test the procedure for the upcoming pre-sequels.

Jump forward a few years,...the prequels have been released and some backlash has been noted on the Original Trilogy, Lucasfilm still hasn't released the films on DVD yet, and with the imminent arrival of a High-Definition DVD on the horizon, they feel that the OT SE's need further tweaking....but first the movie needs cleaned of any dirt & scratches on the print....so they send them off to world renowned digital restoration experts Lowrey Digital.

Rather than giving Lowrey the original film, like everyone else does...they give them one they've scanned themselves.....and doodled on.....

This is why we have substandard blu-rays....not equal to the high standard of other High-Def remasters.

So....sorry that I've probably just reiterated what you guys already know....but I just had to say it.

J 

First I would like to say, Awesome Site! :)

Now for my first post, hope I'm not attacked for it, LOL.

Looking at these four images I have to say that I think, even if it's the 2004 source, that they have definitely altered/tweaked/messed with the copy quite a bit for the blu-ray release.

Vader's lightsaber is MUCH different in the direct capture for the blu-ray than in either the 2004 or the Original Version.

The Original Version has a fat blade with a red/orange tint to it while the 2004 version is a fat PINK blade. The blu-ray versions is a MUCH thinner blade that has clearly been altered and appears to have a "redder" tint to it than the '04 version.

I'm still drooling over my pre-order that I have, but I understand a lot of the angst. I see this being an HD version of the 2004 set, with some tweaks to try and make it "somewhat" look like it SHOULD HAVE.

:)

PS I also noticed the "blu-ray preview" video makes it look much more pink than in the direct capture.

The gamma tweak has shrunk the haze around Vader's Magenta blade and made it more pink but it's still the same wonky transfer.

Gamma tweaking doesn't uncrush blacks it just makes the crushed blacks look less black.

It also brings elements to the fore that should never be seen.

The slight orangey tinge to the Death Star is magnified hideously so it looks like a half eaten satsuma.

The shadow in the not complete section now looks unconvincing.

I had no idea the pulsing of the saber glow extended so much.

Is that uniform across the films or does it vary as much as the blade colours and shapes do?

Hmm... if TPM has a new master, I'm praying that it will have that improved Yoda showcased in Star Wars in Concert. TPM does deserve that improvement. As much as that film was a let down, that TPM Yoda puppet really sucked....

I wonder if there will be more noticable alterations to AOTC or ROTS...

I wonder when we will get some official conformation on what has been changed to the films for the blu-ray release? Will episode 1 TPM indeed have the CGI Yoda and not the puppet yoda? Has their been additional work done to the films for the blu-rays? And also if the errors from the OT DVD have been addressed? I know what the answer will be no but lets wait for September 16th to find out for sure. Again those are questions I have I'm not trying to start any trouble here. Thanks.

I;m sure we will be right in that the OT will be unfixed and the PT will be restored. To LFL the OT is just a "fun"direct-to-video follow-up to the "masterful" PT. I got to say this, however: Star Wars is one hell of a drug.

SilverWook said:

As has been said elsewhere, the new Yoda has already been spotted at the "Star Wars in Concert" presentations. The PBS documentary about the concert tour also confirmed the change.

Yes; we did see that clip in Star Wars in Concert but it still isn't confirmed that a CGI Yoda has been created for the entire movie, has it?

A better look at what comicon was showing. (and some nice dinner theater awkwardness as a bonus!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofxcM6Cufw