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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 152

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doubleofive said:

 

So according to the only article about the restoration, it doesn't even sound like they cleaned it in 1080p, but 480p (which is crazy).

 

My favorite part of that article-Jim Ward 2004: it’s hardly a controversy. We sold over $100 million in one day of this DVD around the world, so I don’t think anybody’s too upset about it. And any changes that George made, they might be controversial to about 5 people.”

vs. Jim Ward 2006:" a truly countless number of fans have told us that they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters," said Jim Ward

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Baronlando said:

My favorite part of that article-Jim Ward 2004: it’s hardly a controversy. We sold over $100 million in one day of this DVD around the world, so I don’t think anybody’s too upset about it. And any changes that George made, they might be controversial to about 5 people.”

Seriously? Just because they made a bunch of money means that everyone likes it?

I remember September 21st 2004 like it was yesterday. Stood in line to get my WS box set pre-order in a Toys R'Us. I got it home, and watched all three, becoming increasingly puzzled, frustrated, furious, and ultimately crushed. If I could have done something about it, I certainly would have. At first I thought it was problems with my TV or DVD player or something. All I had wanted was just the 97s on DVD. After realizing the colors weren't my equipment screwing up, I finally got to the end of Jedi and realized what I had just been duped into buying.

It killed the movies for me. It really did. I didn't watch any of the films again until a year or so after the GOUT. Officially in countless ways the worst home video release EVER.

Okay...I'm done now...;)

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Pirates of the Caribbean 4 just cleared a billion bucks worldwide, it must be the most beloved tale of our times.

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Jim Ward: it’s hardly a controversy. We sold over $100 million in one day of this DVD around the world, so I don’t think anybody’s too upset about it. And any changes that George made, they might be controversial to about 5 people.

 

FUCK YOU Jim 

 

sincerely

 

Kurt

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adywan said:

Well i got a reply from the person who was at the Blu-Ray preview at the Disney offices and it does look like we are getting the same old crappy transfers done for the 2004 DVD set:

As I was also at the launch of the Original Trilogy DVD box set, and spoke to Lowry Digital, who made the digital masters, it is my belief that the Blu-rays are created from the same masters as the DVDs. However, Lowry Digital originally created either 4k2k or 8k4k masters at the time (my memory is a little vague) not 1080p ones. And I believe it is these that have been used as the basis for the new BD transfers. Certainly, they are considerably better than either the DVD versions or 1080i TV broadcasts.

 

 I don't see the part where it says the BluRays are just going to be the HDTV broadcasts...?

Unless you typoed and said "does" instead of "doesn't"?

But if what someone else said is true, that the colors were butchered before mastering, then I guess that's that =/

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Coov said:

Thanks!  To me simplicity is key.  I don't try to make them look retail because they're not.  Also, I am used to a lot of my work being customized for edits anyway.  Plenty of room for any editor to add what they may.

On that note;  Because I only have interest in the first film, I altered your cover slightly.  If they were to ever release the 1977 version on BR, this would be fine for me. 

 

One thing I really don't care for is the insistence by case manufacturers that all BR cases be translucent blue.  That seems weird to me and I expect it will be a dated practice eventually. 

Personally, my DVDs and BRs are in a book case - along with books.  I don't care to have a bunch of shorter pieces of iMac blue plastic in there.  That's one of the reasons I dig your leather design.  It also goes well with my Indiana Jones and LOTR sets. 

When I finally get some spare time, I'll be moving my small collection of BRs into black DVD cases anyway.  Because overall my movie collection is getting to be too large for me aesthetically -  I don't care to have a Wall-O-Discs -  I'll probably start marrying them into bulk holders (all 007, all Indiana Jones, all Christmas films, etc).

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Kurt said:

Jim Ward: it’s hardly a controversy. We sold over $100 million in one day of this DVD around the world, so I don’t think anybody’s too upset about it. And any changes that George made, they might be controversial to about 5 people.

 

FUCK YOU Jim 

 

With God as my witness - when I finished my Coov BR artwork post, that was going to be my very next post.  Verbatim.

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adywan said:

Well i got a reply from the person who was at the Blu-Ray preview at the Disney offices and it does look like we are getting the same old crappy transfers done for the 2004 DVD set:


As I was also at the launch of the Original Trilogy DVD box set, and spoke to Lowry Digital, who made the digital masters, it is my belief that the Blu-rays are created from the same masters as the DVDs. However, Lowry Digital originally created either 4k2k or 8k4k masters at the time (my memory is a little vague) not 1080p ones. And I believe it is these that have been used as the basis for the new BD transfers. Certainly, they are considerably better than either the DVD versions or 1080i TV broadcasts.


 


 I don't see the part where it says the BluRays are just going to be the HDTV broadcasts...?

Unless you typoed and said "does" instead of "doesn't"?

But if what someone else said is true, that the colors were butchered before mastering, then I guess that's that =/
Whoever this quote is from contradicts all facts we had previously. The colors were messed up by LFL, they gave Lowry a 1080p file to clean up. If Lowry says its the same transfer now, its the same transfer that LFL did and messed up.

The real test is this:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iaoKSxYfln0/TgoWV03hKvI/AAAAAAAAAlg/GWYEPmG-wM0/snapshot_dvd_01.46.02_%25255B2011.06.28_19.56.47%25255D%252520kopie.jpg
This glitch on the Death Star is in the DVD, HDTV versions, everything using this master. If this glitch is not present on the BD, this may show that there were better transfers done OF the 2004 version. I'm wondering if the glitch was in the file LFL sent over and Lowry didn't see.

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Some close up screen shots of the Blu ray demo:

http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30596

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

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danny_boy said:

 

Some close up screen shots of the Blu ray demo:

http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30596

They're totally fake. They supposed to have been taken at the London preview on 14th July. Now for one the TV is fixed to the wall, whereas the TV at the preview was on a stand which was well away from any wall. Then there is the fact that no one at the preview were allowed to get close to the TV to take any pictures. They're Just pictures someone has taken while playing either the 2004 DVDs or the HDTV broadcast. And the text just seems to be a reworded copy from another site. here it is translated:

During the Digital Entertainment Group Europe event, held at the Disney offices in England last night of July 14th, 20th Century Fox showed to the media present clips of about 30 seconds duration from the Blu-ray editions of the Star wars movies.

Not much was seen and due to the exclusivity, taking pictures or videos from the screen was also not allowed, but at least it served to get a first impression about the quality of picture and sound that you'll be able to enjoy. The first two clips were from Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (with Yoda and Clone soldiers flying over the battlefield during the Battle of Geonosis), and the one of Obi-Wan Kenobi vs. Anakin Skywalker fighting at the end of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. Obviously, since both movies were filmed and digitally stored, they looked absolutely perfect - making the most of the 1080p resolution of Blu-ray. They have never looked so good before, not even in HD TV broadcasts or in theaters themselves.

But the surprise arrived with the clip from Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. It was the opening sequence of the special edition of the film (when the Star Destroyer catches Princess Leia's ship), the moment when C-3PO shows for the first time in 1080 is impressive. The sparkles from the golden parts of his body with so much detail and shine made you think that the film was made this year instead of 34 years ago. Little else was seen and even though the material displayed was so little, everything suggests that Lucasfilm has done an impressive job with the high definition transfer.

Remember that on September 14 for the first time the complete saga of Star Wars on Blu-ray will be available and that will be the moment to confirm if first impressions are true. The pre-orders have been going on with great success for months.

Oh, and great covers coov :)

 

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Anchorhead said:

Coov said:

Thanks!  To me simplicity is key.  I don't try to make them look retail because they're not.  Also, I am used to a lot of my work being customized for edits anyway.  Plenty of room for any editor to add what they may.

On that note;  Because I only have interest in the first film, I altered your cover slightly.  If they were to ever release the 1977 version on BR, this would be fine for me. 

 

One thing I really don't care for is the insistence by case manufacturers that all BR cases be translucent blue.  That seems weird to me and I expect it will be a dated practice eventually. 

Personally, my DVDs and BRs are in a book case - along with books.  I don't care to have a bunch of shorter pieces of iMac blue plastic in there.  That's one of the reasons I dig your leather design.  It also goes well with my Indiana Jones and LOTR sets. 

When I finally get some spare time, I'll be moving my small collection of BRs into black DVD cases anyway.  Because overall my movie collection is getting to be too large for me aesthetically -  I don't care to have a Wall-O-Discs -  I'll probably start marrying them into bulk holders (all 007, all Indiana Jones, all Christmas films, etc).

That black case rocks!  I did not even know they existed.  Good to know.

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Coov said:

That black case rocks!  I did not even know they existed.  Good to know.

I don't think they do.  I 'shopped it.  I gave up trying to find one after I nearly reached the end of the internet looking for a company that makes them.

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I googled it and some came up.  May have to go that route.

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doubleofive said:

 

This glitch on the Death Star is in the DVD, HDTV versions, everything using this master. If this glitch is not present on the BD, this may show that there were better transfers done OF the 2004 version. I'm wondering if the glitch was in the file LFL sent over and Lowry didn't see.

 

Couldn't that be an encoding glitch, rather than a transfer glitch?  I've never seen a glitch like it and wouldn't presume it must be present in the transfer master.  Thus, even if that glitch turns out not to be in the BD, that wouldn't prove that it's from a different transfer.

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It looks like those zonadvd shots aren't even the right aspect ratio (full-frame or whatever we call it now on widescreen tvs)

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Anchorhead said:

Coov said:

That black case rocks!  I did not even know they existed.  Good to know.

I don't think they do.  I 'shopped it.  I gave up trying to find one after I nearly reached the end of the internet looking for a company that makes them.

I was browsing the PS3 games at Gamestop one day (PS3 uses the same size case as BDs only transparent and thicker, you probably know that), and noticed a game in a black case, so some do exist. It was made out of cheap plastic though, had no BD logo, and was textured and not smooth. Didn't look very good, the fake one in your picture looks great though; hope they eventually make some that color with the logo.

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You have to be logged into that madhouse to see it, unfortunately. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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Kurt said:

And any changes that George made, they might be controversial to about 5 people.

 

FUCK YOU Jim 

Are we seriously that invisible? Even a popular TV show like South Park dedicates an episode to problem and it is still only "5 people"?

Their own company store sells (sold?) a "Han Shoots First" t-shit, and they included a Han Shoots First achievement in the LEGO Star Wars video game, obviously they realize it is controversial to more than just five people. 

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adywan said:

Pictures of the US box set:

danny_boy said:

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/A-Destiny-Revealed-Star-Wars-Media-Day-Brings-Blu-ray-to-Town.shtml

 

Yeah that one looks closer to this one posted a while back as opposed to the one with the shitty disc art.

But the top pic confirms that the U.S release for the "saga" is the same book style Fox used for the Alien Anthology and also employed by HBO for Rome and Deadwood the complete series.

Commence the massive amounts of bitching as a result of the use this kind of book packaging. "oMFG I can't get the disks out, theyll' get sratched!!"

Personally I have the Deadwood boxset and it's fine. All that's necessary is being evolved enough to have opposable thumbs, but then again there will be some cretins who will be buying this set that for them this may be a problem.

 

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Can you post a photo of what that book style case looks like when opened?

Where were you in '77?