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THE OT SOUNDTRACKS SALVAGE - SWESBROTJ -"remastered"(so far)+ LP's (Released) — Page 12

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Thanks a lot for these explanations. That enlightens my mind about how turns the mind of "sharing" an effort (contrary of "normal" stuff) through the internet. That also explains why there have not been more than a couple of feedbacks in there since a long time...

 

... and someone going by "CBA" (your moniker but backwards?) posted them more than two months ago

A fan ?... Or the sign of a world upside down ?

 

All this doesn't help nor encourage my efforts at all. However I wish my efforts on these soundtracks will inspire others trying to make these better themselves from the original sources.

 

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Hey, no problem; glad to help out and share knowledge.  I couldn't begin to do the audio wizardry you do, but I do what I can.

One thought about newsgroups for you to consider:  I think they're actually a perfect vehicle for you to use as a sharing option (probably not the ONLY way to share, since a lot of people don't use them, just as not everyone can use Megaupload or Rapidshare or Torrents), for a couple reasons.  Once they're uploaded to a newsgroup, they're there for a very long time.  You don't need to worry about Rapidshare or Megaupload deleting them soon after you upload, or from seeders stopping seeding a torrent, which takes away a lot of the "please upload them again!" comments.  Also, you don't have to upload them to alt.bin.starwars, and you don't have to label them accurately.  For instance, I understand you're trying to limit the sharing of your work to people you're fairly sure already own the originals, so to help limit that, you (or someone more familiar with the newsgroups), could upload them to a different group (not Star Wars related), using a name that's not going to make people want to download it.  That way when people on this board ask, they could be pointed in the right direction.

After people get the set, of course, it's impossible to control what they do with it (post it to Rapidshare or Megaupload or TehParadox or other message boards, or even make a torrent out of it), but that's something no one can contol anyway.  This way (posting it to the newsgroups), there is a copy available for two years, with no need to upload again and again because it's been deleted, and if it's uploaded "correctly" (non-Star Wars newsgroup and misleading name), then there's little chance that random people will stumble on it by accident.

Just a thought.

Also, I probably haven't said this before, since I was only answering the other poster's request for Return of a Jedi, then answering your post, but THANK YOU so much for your work!  I love the Salvage remasters, the LPs from 7FN, and especially love the Audiophile edition.  The sound is so much clearer, so much fuller, that it's amazing it's the same score, and that someone at Sony or someone in Lucas' camp wasn't able, or interested enough, to do the same thing.  It's sad, actually, and I'm really grateful you took it upon yourself to "fix" things for everyone here.  :-)  And I'm also really excited to hear your new project, whenever that eventually happens.

Anyway, thanks again for so much great work!  And if you think about the newsgroups some more and come to the conclusion that they might not be that bad of a choice as one of the ways to share your upcoming Imperial Audiophile Edition, I'd be happy to help out.  I've never uploaded to the newsgroups, but I think I could manage it.

Either way, thanks!

Eric

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I fully agree that those of us who are allowed to download these revisions already own the original soundtracks.  How, though, do we make this clear?

 

As well as the 1997 special editions of the soundtracks (plus the respective prequel soundtracks) I have the Anthology box set and have managed to acquire, though various sites like TehParadox and RickSays, some of the expanded editions (including the staggering Optimum edtion of ESB) and would be happy to answer any questions confirming this to be the case!

That's some bad hat, Harry
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Thx for the info, but I'm not using any of those newsgroup programs. Any chance of just getting megaupload links, which would be great. Thanks for your help anyway.

 

Cheers

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At the moment I only have the mp3 copies I made for myself to put on my portable player.  If those are okay instead of the FLAC files, I can get them uploaded for you.  Otherwise, if you want to hang on for a couple of days, I can get the originals downloaded off Usenet and then uploaded somewhere, but the uploading process might take a while.  I'm on a shared connection with kind of cruddy upload speeds, especially during the day.

So, let me know.

Eric

P.S. Oops, forgot to mention, the mp3 files are encoded at 256 kbps, so they sound pretty good.  Not FLAC good, but still good.  But yeah, let me know if you want the FLAC files, but it will take a couple days.

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Okay, I haven't heard back from BillyBoy35 on whether or not the MP3 files would be okay, but I ended up finding the original FLAC files on an external hard drive, so it doesn't matter anyway.  If anyone wants the MP3 files, they'll just have to download the FLAC files and convert for themselves.

I ended up uploading the complete remastered trilogy (not the LP rips), and posted them to Sharebee.  For those unfamiliar with Sharebee, it's a fantastic site that once you upload to them, uploads your file to Megaupload, Rapidshare, zSHARE, Badongo and DepositFiles.  In fact, you don't download from Sharebee, but when you click on a Sharebee link, you're given a list of those five sites, and then you download from them.  The huge advantage (other than upload once and have it go to five different sites), is that Sharebee monitors the other sites, and if the file gets deleted from one, Sharebee re-uploads.

In order to hopefully keep the Sharebee links alive as long as possible, I've created a ShortText document that holds all the Sharebee links, and the ShortText link is anonymized by Redirect.am (which is routed through the is.gd URL shortening service), so the Sharebee links won't show OT.com as the referring link and anyone watching for that kind of stuff won't find it... as quickly.  :-)

Anyway, here's the link:

http://is.gd/eMtVL

Enjoy!  And be sure to thank ABC for his fantastic work; he deserves it!  And 7FN as well, for his vinyl rip contributions; great stuff all around.  :-)

P.S. For your sanity's sake, it's really better if you have ad-blocking software installed for your web browser.  I didn't realize it until partway through uploading, but Sharebee uses a TON of ads (including the really annoying kind that fade in over the actual web page as you're sitting there), but with AdBlock Plus installed in Firefox, I don't see a thing... it's as if there aren't any ads at all.  Just a word of warning.  :-)

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It's great to see someone able to loggin to this site only to offer such a help. And I'm honoured it is about my work on this set. Thank you very much, and thanks for your kind words.

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fleminec, this is fantastic.  So, these are the remastered scores from 1997, yes?  I bought these at the time they came out but I may well download these as a bakcup.  And in FLAC, too, yet.  Marvellous.  I don't know why people waste time with MP3, to be honest.  I've been using FLAC since my early days as a trader.

 

Speaking of trading, see what everyone thinks of this.  Back in the day, we had a system which was completely non-profit based, where we would trade bootlegs of a particular band (the band have issued statements saying as long as no-one is making money from this venture, they are completely fine with dedicated fans sharing what they have as long as none of the stuff is officially released product).  Basically, a poster would put up notice that they had a recording and the first three to ask for a copy would get a copy in the post, the only provision being that they, in turn, would offer up a copy to another three members, and so it went on: fans all sharing music in a completely altruistic fashion.  The recordings would be in lossless format and would stem from an authoritative release (in this case it would likely be ABC's) so as not to pullute the trading pool.

 

Would this work here or would that be pushing the legalities of this group? 

That's some bad hat, Harry
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Hey fleminec,

 

Thanks mate, your a legend, much appreciated. Downloading as I type. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier but FALCS are just what I was after. I'll be sure to re-up in future if the links go down, but from the sounds of it you've got it covered. Thanks again for yours and ABC' efforts.

Cheers Billy Boy

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Three things:

ABC Said: "It's great to see someone able to loggin to this site only to offer such a help. And I'm honoured it is about my work on this set. Thank you very much, and thanks for your kind words."

Actually, I had an account at OT.com probably five or six years ago, however I couldn't remember the password, and no longer had access to the original email account, so wasn't sure about how to get that changed, so I signed up for a new account.  Didn't matter anyway, since I don't think I ever posted with the old account!  But you're welcome.  Your scores deserve to be spread around, so anything I can do to help.  And that includes your new Imperial Audiophile Edition.  Looks like it will be a bit of a process to upload (5 discs?  I'm drooling already!), but I'd be willing to help out.  Just sayin'..

Easterhay Said: "So, these are the remastered scores from 1997, yes?"

No.  These are the scores ABC remastered.  Read the first post of the thread to find out more about the project.  I think he used the 1997 scores (or maybe their 2004 versions), in addition to the 1993 anthology, to come up with the best-sounding versions of the original trilogy scores.  But these aren't the 1997 special edition scores as originally released, no.  You'd also talked about setting up a trading vine, and while I've been one before (for both Phish and Grateful Dead concerts), I'm not sure it's all that viable an option anymore.  For one, it was excellent back in the days before high-speed Internet and bittorrent, but now that we have what we have today (Megaupload, Demonoid, Usenet, and forums in which to point people to where the files are), I'm not sure a vine is necessary.  But ask around, I could be wrong!  :-)

BillyBoy35 Said: "Thanks mate, your a legend, much appreciated... Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier but FLACS are just what I was after. I'll be sure to re-up in future if the links go down, but from the sounds of it you've got it covered. Thanks again for yours and ABC' efforts."

No problem, and phfff... not a legend, only an uploader.  :-)  No problem not getting back to me sooner.  And thanks for the re-upload offer.  I totally don't expect my uploads to exist forever.  Probably longer than would be expected if I had uploaded directly to Megaupload or Rapidshare, but certainly not forever.

Eric

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One more thing...

I've been looking for quite a while, but haven't stumbled upon a rip of the original "Return of the Jedi" LP.  I'm not a vinyl freak, but I've really enjoyed listening to the 7FN needle drops mentioned in this thread.  I have no way to transfer my old copies (neither the skill nor the software nor the patience, more than likely!), but would be more than willing to share if someone is willing to make it available.

Actually, that's what led me to the question: I wanted to upload the "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" vinyl rips along with the trilogy I just uploaded, but because I'm a bit of a completist, I couldn't only upload two (I'm a bit messed up that way).

So, yeah... if anyone has a copy, or knows where one is, I'd love to get it, and I'd definitely help spread it around.

Thanks!

Eric

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Thanks, fleminec.  I have the three ABC scores - if memory serves I got them through TehParadox; they've got a pretty big thread on the Star Wars music.  Great to have another link to them, though.

 

And I agree with you on the old trading vines being superseded by the improvements in downloading.  I must admit, once I found a bittorrent site for the group I was talking about (which, incidentally, was Genesis) I stopped acquiring my bootlegs through postal trades.  It's so much simpler and quicker (but I do miss the anticipation of waiting for the postman to arrive with a bulky envelope!).

 

Sorry I can't help you with the vinyl rip for ROTJ.  Good luck in finding it; I hope someone can sort that for you.

That's some bad hat, Harry
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Hey fleminec, THANKS FOR THE LINKS! and THANK YOU ABC for the professional work.

I have the SE Trilogy and the original ROTJ CD but no vinyl. 

I also have the Charles Gerhardt recordings (Star Wars and ESB, but no Jedi) in case anyone is interested.  I could upload in mp3 or FLAC.

I have the Close Encounters and ET on vinyl, and if I find a way to rip them I will share, but my equipment is cheap commercial stuff with a $100+ turntable. I once ripped my Twilight Zone LP and the resulting wav file sucked. Im a newbie in terms of audio ripping or editing.

Thanks again to all who shared.

Joorus

 

 

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Joorus said:

... and THANK YOU ABC for the professional work.

Thanks but please... The OT soundtracks salvage is not "professional" quality. (Only the ESB "audiophile" would deserve such a qualification).

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fleminec said:

One more thing...

I've been looking for quite a while, but haven't stumbled upon a rip of the original "Return of the Jedi" LP.

Darth Malwalker has dig up an old fossile for you in the fan edit forum.

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I actually got a PM from him about that.  Thanks!

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I'm awfully late to the party, but I brought cookies!

 

ABC, I don't know if you're still around to read this, but ever since I got the Special Edition CDs for my birthday a dozen years ago, I've been a fan of classical music. John Williams' scores are the reason I listen to Mahler, Tchaikovsky, Holst, and Dvorak, among others, today. (I'm sure I'm not the only 30-year-old guy who can say that!) At the time, I enjoyed what I had. I didn't have an appreciation for sound quality, for mixing and mastering. That's only come in the last few years, now that I finally have hi-fi and great headphones. And along with an upgrade of equipment has come an upgrade of much of my music collection. (Steve Hoffman's forum has been a blessing to my ears and a curse to my wallet!)

And yet, with each purchase of a Star Wars score on CD, it seemed I was getting no closer to perfection. Each release had its limitations, some worse than others. Eventually I gave up the search and frankly stopped listening to these influential albums. So it should go without saying that when I found your "Audiophile" edition of The Empire Strikes Back, I did a little dance.

Your restoration feels alive, it feels spontaneous, like I'm in the studio with Williams' baton waving passionately just beyond my speakers.

After more searching, I managed to get ahold of your "Salvage" Editions of A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. Finally, FINALLY, I feel like I can sit back with eyes closed and immerse myself in Williams' revolutionary scores. Star Wars has always been the ultimate expression of escapism -- escaping not just the confines of your house, your time, your planet, but your galaxy -- which John Williams fully understood, and expressed it beautifully through music. With a few twists and turns of digital knobs, you've managed to bring out what professional engineers could not. You've helped restore what will most definitely be a lifetime of enjoyment.

My sincerest thanks!

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These are really well done. I especially enjoyed being able to compare the RSO LP of Star Wars to my 20th Century Fox edition. Is the RSO LP of ESB still available?

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I'm presently listening to the ANH Remastered, and it's fantastic. Very, very, very pleased with this. I'm not the sort that knows all the right technical terms to describe this stuff, but the word I'd use is that it all sounds so much deeper than what I'm used to.

Won't be downloading ESB on account of the Imperial Audiophile Edition, but looking forward to ROTJ finally sounding correct.

ROTJ Storyboard Reconstruction Project

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I've got the Imperial Audiophile Edition.  Can anyone PM the links to Star Wars and Jedi?

– Bill

Never tell me the odds.

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Welcomed.

– Bill

Never tell me the odds.

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Could you PM me the links to all three please?