Is Part 4 of anything ever good?? — Page 8

CP3S said:

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Hehe, ain't that delicious?

3rd worthless vote: by the guy who also says "blah blah" and has "shut up" as one of the justifications for his vote (he didn't name any others).
4th worthless vote: the troll who admitted to never reading my posts (but still having an opinion about them).


:D

For someone who said the vote does not equal truth, you sure seem awfully concerned about it...

CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 5 (Frink, Gaffer, Ziggy, C3PX, Mrebo)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 5 (Frink, Gaffer, Ziggy, C3PX's cat, Mrebo)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

TV's Frink said:

For someone who said the vote does not equal truth, you sure seem awfully concerned about it...

Or maybe, for someone who said the vote doesn't equal truth, I have just the right amount of fun pointing how just how much it doesn't equal truth.

Lame, Frink. Lame.

You can count me out, by the way, I never voted for anything.

Mrebo said:

General Frink, count me in.

I honestly don't see the point of this thread, other than to mock xhonzi's.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Is-Part-3-of-Anything-Ever-Good/post/513984/#TopicPost513984

Now you know better.

Had I thought of more good 4th parts, I would've mentioned them.

twooffour said:

You can count me out, by the way, I never voted for anything.

Gaffer Tape said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Okay, I do want to start out by saying that twooffour's last post in the politics thread was actually on-topic, relatively well-constructed, and wasn't the least bit insulting, condescending, or arrogant.  I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.

But all that said, I have to cast my ballot for twooffour.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but as it seems, I've been talking to a brickwall in my last response to you.

Why did you even ask?
I challenged you to provide a REASON for me to think that I "deserve" this criticism, and what do I get? Some flabby "vote". Anyone can vote, much fewer can justify their votes.


So basically, as far as I'm concerned at this stage, all your "criticisms" are just hot air and entirely worthless, and I have no reason to take any of them seriously.

Thanks for providing the second worthless vote, after the first one :D

Well, once again, I come to your aid and petition people to treat you fairly (even though you've given no one any reason to do so), and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.  And once again, I have to ask why I even bother.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours. See my above post where I qualified what counted as a good post of yours. Reverse those attributes, and you have what constitutes a normal post of yours, the posts that I believe "deserve" criticism.

LOOOOOOOL... where to even begin?

Well, once again, I come to your aid

And when was the last time? All I remember is you sarcastically wallowing in just how much I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, concede that someone else might be right about anything, anything, anything.
But my memory may be failing me.

and petition people to treat you fairly

Well I did say "thanks for pointing out the obvious", which, and I hope I'm not sounding like a major dick by saying that, is a rather enormous feat by the last three days' standards.

Frink was obviously so taken in by the madness, he didn't realize just how incredibly stupid it was to take a perfectly legitimate post and quote it as "blah blah blah" because of some stupid shit in another thread.
And then go create a vote about "who's the problem".

A bit of common sense is really like a breath of fresh air in dark hours like this, so yea, thanks, whatever. Mad props to Frink for "agreeing" after called on it a second time, only by someone else - awesome achievement there.

Tiger Wooo, Tiger Wooo, I like.

(even though you've given no one any reason to do so)

Like, you mean, posting a sensible post in a politics thread? That kind of reason?

Having that said, it was really just a banal aside footnote to a discussion I had no real grasp of, so I don't need anyone to lend their "support" to it, thanks.
If Frink wants to make an idiot out of himself, he's welcome to do that. And you to come to HIS aid.

and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.

You completely went over the lengthy response I'd written to you after you asked why I didn't consider myself the problem in this situation.
To declare how right you had been with your "sarcasm", and your "implication".

Now THAT was a dick move on your part, and that you're now calling me a jerk for pointing that out, really says it all.

A bit like the last time, when you got "offended", and had even almost stopped reading my post, because I told you that you hadn't "paid attention"... after you really, and demonstrably, hadn't paid attention :DD

Accidental irony, I eat it up like honey.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours.

I've said this before, but yea, if you think that a bunch of out-of-context quotes, of which at least 2 were jokes, and at least another half was semi-humorous, passes for an "answer", then, oh well.

There again you're tapping in "unintentional irony" land - after a lengthy post to you, where I described when it could be justified to consider yourself "right" in a discussion (even of opinions), all you can offer is a collection of stripped down quotes of mine... where I tell people they're wrong.

How much FAIL can one squeeze in one short response??
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Here's an answer: even more.
As if your post hadn't enough levels of unintentional irony already, here's another one - in my lengthy response above, I was talking about how a user not reading, or completely going over their opponents' comments, while still continuing to reply / argue / insist on their own position, was in clear disadvantage, and basically, for all intents and purposes, "wrong" as long as they didn't back up.

And how, correspondingly, the user on the other side would have all the reason to consider themselves in the right, as, you know... the other one doesn't even know what he was talking about!

And well, there you are, after obviously completely skipping my response, continuing to argue, insist that you're right, and complaining about what a dick I am.
And not just right about anything... but me being wrong about... calling other users wrong... for not reading my god damn comments.

This is... so... fucking... good.

TV's Frink said:

I vote for twooffour.

CURRENT SCORE:

twooffour - 1 (Frink)
everyone else - 0

So then why doesn't this vote stand? ;)

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Okay, I do want to start out by saying that twooffour's last post in the politics thread was actually on-topic, relatively well-constructed, and wasn't the least bit insulting, condescending, or arrogant.  I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.

But all that said, I have to cast my ballot for twooffour.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but as it seems, I've been talking to a brickwall in my last response to you.

Why did you even ask?
I challenged you to provide a REASON for me to think that I "deserve" this criticism, and what do I get? Some flabby "vote". Anyone can vote, much fewer can justify their votes.


So basically, as far as I'm concerned at this stage, all your "criticisms" are just hot air and entirely worthless, and I have no reason to take any of them seriously.

Thanks for providing the second worthless vote, after the first one :D

Well, once again, I come to your aid and petition people to treat you fairly (even though you've given no one any reason to do so), and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.  And once again, I have to ask why I even bother.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours. See my above post where I qualified what counted as a good post of yours. Reverse those attributes, and you have what constitutes a normal post of yours, the posts that I believe "deserve" criticism.

LOOOOOOOL... where to even begin?

Well, once again, I come to your aid

And when was the last time? All I remember is you sarcastically wallowing in just how much I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, concede that someone else might be right about anything, anything, anything.
But my memory may be failing me.

and petition people to treat you fairly

Well I did say "thanks for pointing out the obvious", which, and I hope I'm not sounding like a major dick by saying that, is a rather enormous feat by the last three days' standards.

Frink was obviously so taken in by the madness, he didn't realize just how incredibly stupid it was to take a perfectly legitimate post and quote it as "blah blah blah" because of some stupid shit in another thread.
And then go create a vote about "who's the problem".

A bit of common sense is really like a breath of fresh air in dark hours like this, so yea, thanks, whatever. Mad props to Frink for "agreeing" after called on it a second time, only by someone else - awesome achievement there.

Tiger Wooo, Tiger Wooo, I like.

(even though you've given no one any reason to do so)

Like, you mean, posting a sensible post in a politics thread? That kind of reason?

Having that said, it was really just a banal aside footnote to a discussion I had no real grasp of, so I don't need anyone to lend their "support" to it, thanks.
If Frink wants to make an idiot out of himself, he's welcome to do that. And you to come to HIS aid.

 

and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.

You completely went over the lengthy response I'd written to you after you asked why I didn't consider myself the problem in this situation.
To declare how right you had been with your "sarcasm", and your "implication".

Now THAT was a dick move on your part, and that you're now calling me a jerk for pointing that out, really says it all.

A bit like the last time, when you got "offended", and had even almost stopped reading my post, because I told you that you hadn't "paid attention"... after you really, and demonstrably, hadn't paid attention :DD

Accidental irony, I eat it up like honey.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours.

I've said this before, but yea, if you think that a bunch of out-of-context quotes, of which at least 2 were jokes, and at least another half was semi-humorous, passes for an "answer", then, oh well.

There again you're tapping in "unintentional irony" land - after a lengthy post to you, where I described when it could be justified to consider yourself "right" in a discussion (even of opinions), all you can offer is a collection of stripped down quotes of mine... where I tell people they're wrong.

How much FAIL can one squeeze in one short response??
___
Here's an answer: even more.
As if your post hadn't enough levels of unintentional irony already, here's another one - in my lengthy response above, I was talking about how a user not reading, or completely going over their opponents' comments, while still continuing to reply / argue / insist on their own position, was in clear disadvantage, and basically, for all intents and purposes, "wrong" as long as they didn't back up.

And how, correspondingly, the user on the other side would have all the reason to consider themselves in the right, as, you know... the other one doesn't even know what he was talking about!

And well, there you are, after obviously completely skipping my response, continuing to argue, insist that you're right, and complaining about what a dick I am.
And not just right about anything... but me being wrong about... calling other users wrong... for not reading my god damn comments.

This is... so... fucking... good.

 

Zaboo says:

Bookmark'd.

For the last time, I never stopped reading your fucking posts, you little twat.

Yes, you were complaining about how you were so offended, by me accusing you of "not paying attention" (which you weren't), that you ALMOST stopped reading.
And there you are, telling me how you "never actually stopped reading my posts"... while insisting how you hadn't misread anything I'd written.... just "not bought it"... and then you're telling me how not everything is irony... LOL!

Sometimes, people can read every stupid piece of shit that comes out of your bilge-spewing fingers and still, gasp, happen to not buy it.

Yes, but in your case, you weren't really paying attention, rather than understanding and "not buying" it.
I can dig that shit up you know, but what for? You've just provided another example of that right here :D

Just FYI, on internet forums, and in real life debates, it matters less how right you actually are to the God of Absolute Knowledge, and much, much more, how you can ARGUE that you're right.
And arguing means, backing up. Right is whoever can back up. Wrong is whoever can't, or can't defend the others' argument.

So if I say you have misread my post (almost as if you hadn't paid attention), and can demonstrate how I said one thing while you responded to the other, WITH NOTHING BUT AN ANGRY RANT FROM YOU IN RESPONSE, then that means, for the time being, I'm right.
If you've understood my post, but don't show any signs of it, don't reply to a single point in it, and are behaving exactly as if you would if you hadn't read it (almost so much it'd take a miracle for you to actually have read it), then for all intents and purposes, I can say you haven't paid attention to it, and I'd be right.

"Show, don't tell", as an old writing rule says.
You can SAY that you've "read and understood everything", but you'll have to SHOW that in order to be believed.
And it doesn't help if what you're showing, is the exact opposite - like when you're clearly arguing against a strawman. You may BELIEVE you're arguing against the right thing, which is why you SAY "hey listen fucktard I got all!!", but it's OBVIOUS FROM YOUR POST that, actually, you haven't.

So again, back up and demonstrate, otherwise it ain't legitimate.

So there, I've given you some well-meaning advice on how to effectively argue on the internet, and not come off as an angry laughing stock. Will you kindly accept that, or react like a major dick?

Go fuck yourself.

Wow; you little twat; now that was rude! ;)
Seriously, though, doesn't help you either if you accuse me of acting like an "asshole", while simultaneously being ruder than I've ever been, let alone to you ;)

Now, speaking of irony...

And, seriously, not EVERYTHING is irony, as much as you'd like it to be so.

No, it's rather as much as you make it to be, and it just happens to be as much as I like it, too.

It's not like I just said "oh the irony!" and then ran away - I explain exactly how a given remark drips of unintentional irony (that's, in a nutshell, "amusing hypocrisy without realizing it", like telling someone something, while actually that something applies to you, and not to him; two levels of irony if this something is said in a sarcastic mode while actually being wrong in the sarcastic sense, but right if taken at face value; three levels if that's how you're perceiving your opponent, while actually it doesn't apply; and so forth), I also enjoy it more that way.

So I'm afraid you can't just shrug it off as "no, it isn't" after all those delicious breakdowns :D
You come off as very angry for someone who just wasn't pointed to a shitload of hilarious unintentional irony in their own posts, though. Why so?

Seriously - as I've said above, back your shit up.

because you feel compelled to prove yourself right against it.

Well, so far, I've been quoting a dictionary to support my view against someone who said I was challenging the dictionary (there's some irony for you right there), so not sure exactly what you mean by "proving myself right against it".

At any rate, this is pretty much how I've always seen the word "irony" being used. What, you know some other definition? Oops.



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Too long. Concluded in Part 2.

and not because I didn't stop reading your fucking posts, but just because you're an asshole

Yea, seeing as how you kinda weren't reading my posts long before you left.

Not sure how much of a "warp" that is, though, considering that it's basically what happened.


At any rate, just in case you think of complaining about how douchey and condescending I was being when telling you how to argue properly (since you obviously hadn't known that prior to this), take a look at this:

I jumped into the thread to tell them to lay off, that you were new, and then gave you the advice on how to behave like a mature human being

Ah, right right, wasn't that the one where you lectured me about social rules in different real life situations, how they applied here, too, and how "new" members in a social group weren't supposed to "jab" older members while the "veterans" could?
I think it was about SkyJedi?

Or was it something else?
Well yea, what I replied to you was basically, that this ain't real life, it's a message board.
Maybe I also added that being a dick from time to time is fun, but I don't think that was my major point. It sure is a hell lot more entertaining and liberating than getting butthurt and offended over things like "you don't pay attention", or "you're wrong", or berating everyone how they should be nicer to people.
(Just to clarify, it's only "fun" when there's some tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, and stealth jabs, involved. That's fun to read, and sometimes fun to write; not so much that angry, self-serious "you fucktwat" ranting you did above.)

At any rate, I think you just kinda sighed and shrugged, rolled your eyes and moved on after that, so that was underwhelming.



So yea, so much for that.
I think you just want immediate expressions of love and gratitude for your wise "advices" and "aiding", and when someone questions a part of it, you go all "not if you're gonna be like that!" and get offended.

But I don't remember that older exchange very well.

Davnes007 said:

If this is how 2of4 is...imagine how annoying 4of4 is.

Thanks, but no thanks ;)

CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 6 (Frink, Gaffer, Ziggy, C3PX's cat, Mrebo, Davnes007)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

twooffour, you're acting like such an asshole that you've got regulars who hardly ever say shit about ANYONE telling you how awful you are.

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

Scratch that, second worst.  There isn't anything to indicate you are a pedophile.

TV's Frink said:

twooffour, you're acting like such an asshole that you've got regulars who hardly ever say shit about ANYONE telling you how awful you are.

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scratch that, second worst.  There isn't anything to indicate you are a pedophile.

Wait, there was a pedophile on here?

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

There you have it, you go by what people think, not by any kind of solid reasoning :D
So why should I care about a judgment based on such horrible non-reasons?

you're acting like such an asshole that you've got regulars who hardly ever say shit about ANYONE telling you how awful you are.

In case I haven't said this enough already, I really don't give a shit about what people think of me, if they can't back it up.
If they're being giant hypocrites while doing that, the better. If they also directly admit to not really knowing what they're voting against, then, oh man, PARTY.

This coming from a guy who just said "blah blah" on the politics thread, yea? And you expect me not to laugh my ass off at that?

twooffour said:

I really don't give a shit about what people think of me

I LOVE THIS GUY.

Oh, and I vote for him also.

Gaffer Tape said:

*Gaffer Rage!*

*SMASH*

Wow. Out of all my years here, I don't think I have ever seen Gaffer get upset with anyone like this before. He's always kind of been the Ambassador of Peace. But then again, out of all my years on the internets, I've never quite seen anything like twooffour.

As amusing as he has been, when he inevitably gets banned I am not going to be shedding any tears. He's already been temp banned once for insulting Moth3r, so he is on pretty thin ice. I'd honestly be surprised if he makes it to the end of this month without finding a way to get himself a permanent ban, but then again, he may surprise me.

TV's Frink said:

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

I don't think voting is a big deal, but if he manages to get our three most tolerant and friendly members upset at him, I'll be truly impressed. I'm still not sure that is a feat that can be achieved by anyone. Though he has already insulted 005 at least once.

CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 7 (Frink, Gaffer, Ziggy, C3PX's cat, Mrebo, Davnes007, Ric Olie)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

Oh, and C3, your cat's vote was recorded, but I still need yours.  Thanks.