Star Wars Trilogy: Hyperspace Collection - 720p AVCHD Project Complete and Now Available! See Post 42 for final details! — Page 4

how are you guys burning this? i've used nero and imgburn and neither are working

The "fixed" AVCHD editions should burn fine with ImgBurn.  That's the program that was used to create the ISO (and associated MDS) files.

Are you using DVD9 discs (DVD+R DL) or trying to burn to DVD5 discs (DVDR)?  Hyperspace is sized for DVD+R DL format and won't burn to smaller discs.

If you're still having problems with ImgBurn and you are using the correct size discs, I'd suggest first extracting the files and folders from the ISOs (you can use WinRar).  Then, using ImgBurn, write the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to your disc in UDF 2.50 format.

OmegaMattman said:

The problem with the AVCHDs seems to have been related to using a separate M2TS stream for the opening anti-piracy and sound options notice.  The streams have been joined and the problem seems gone.  Weird :/

@OmegaMattman:

Just wanted to again say awesome job on this.

I see you ran into something that I did when muxing to AVCHD except you conqured it. hehe  Just curious, I notice you merged your splash screens into the feature data stream and still had your background music on each sound channel... NICE!  My method for doing this is tedious and was hoping you had a quick tip or a link to doing this efficiently. 

You can laugh at me but I was using audacity to create fill in music for all my different sound channels so that mkv merge would be happy with me when i merged my splash screens with the feature.  I don't intent to jump the thread off-topic just a hint would be much appreciated tho if you have any ideas :)

My method for doing this is tedious and was hoping you had a quick tip or a link to doing this efficiently.

So was mine...but I'm more than happy to share.  The software I used for this portion was:
- Sony Vegas Platinum 8.0 (though any program which supports VST audio effects will work)
- WAV to AC3 Encoder (Freeware)
- V.I. Stereo to 5.1 Converter (Freeware, reguires a program that supports VST)
- tsMuxer GUI (Freeware)

Okay, I'll use Empire as an example, which needed one 5.1 track and two 2.0 tracks.  Obviously, I took the stereo CD and trimmed the portion I needed.  Then, I saved it as a Stereo PCM WAV at 16bits and 48kHz for the eventual 2.0 tracks.

Next was to create the channels for my 5.1 file.  In Vegas, I used the VST effect program V.I. Stereo to 5.1 Converter.  If you decide to use it, you can read its manual to figure out how best to do this for you.  The important thing is to end up with 6 separate Mono PCM Wav files at 16bits and 48kHz: Front Left, Front Right, Surround Left, Surround Right, Center, and LFE.

Now, it's time to create the AC3s.  Make sure you know the format of the AC3 files you're trying to merge them with.  For example, Empire's 2.0 tracks are 224Kbps and flagged as Dolby Surround.  So, using WAV to AC3 Encoder, I reencode my Stereo WAV files in that same format.

For the 5.1, I needed an AC3 at 512Kbps.  Using Wav to AC3 Encoder's "Mux Wizard", I added all of my Mono WAVs to the appropriate channels.  Then, I encoded my new file at the proper bitrate.

Then, I used tsMuxerGUI to create two M2TS files, one for my splash screen and one for the movie, and saved them to my HD.  Then, I used tsMuxerGUI again to "join" those two M2TS files and save them as an AVCHD (Blu-Ray).  The most difficult part was getting the new chapter stops right with the added introduction.

It's probably not the most efficient solution.  But, when I was in a panic trying to fix this mess, it was the best I could come up with.

Thank you so very much !

I think you also may have given me a better idea to to make my AVCHD conversions as well.  Like I once said a few days ago, your AVCHD woked flawlessly on my player with no changes whatsoever so I was already about to ask what you did but I think you just answered that for me as well! hehe

Thanks again :)

I wonder, though...why didn't you also use Vegas to make the subsequent AC3?

Vegas 8.0 (or at least my copy) doesn't give me control of the AC3 bitrate, the choice of adding Dolby Surround flags to 2.0 mixes, or the ability to author mixes other than 2.0 and 5.1 (like 1.0 for a single channel mono).  WAV to AC3 Encoder is much more versatile.

MeBeJedi said:

OmegaMattman said:

I wonder, though...why didn't you also use Vegas to make the subsequent AC3?

Vegas 8.0 (or at least my copy) doesn't give me control of the AC3 bitrate

Well, I don't know about the other parts, but I've always been able to control the bit rate. Weird.

Me to, you can do all this right in Vegas, no need for freeware.

Maybe it's because my Vegas (Movie Studio Platinum 8.0) is an older, consumer-grade edition.

The built-in AC3 encoder only gives me the options of 5.1 at 448Kbps and 2.0 at 192Kbps.  And, it won't give me access to any "custom" settings :/

OmegaMattman said:

how are you guys burning this? i've used nero and imgburn and neither are working

The "fixed" AVCHD editions should burn fine with ImgBurn.  That's the program that was used to create the ISO (and associated MDS) files.

Are you using DVD9 discs (DVD+R DL) or trying to burn to DVD5 discs (DVDR)?  Hyperspace is sized for DVD+R DL format and won't burn to smaller discs.

If you're still having problems with ImgBurn and you are using the correct size discs, I'd suggest first extracting the files and folders from the ISOs (you can use WinRar).  Then, using ImgBurn, write the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to your disc in UDF 2.50 format.

yeah i'm using dvd+r dl (dvd9) discs and i do have the fixed versions. i got return of the jedi to burn right but it doesn't play as an avchd, it just shows up as a data disc with the bdmv and certificate folders on my ps3. i've never had this kind of problem with an avchd disc before. i don't see what i could be doing wrong.

I don't know what to say.  So far, you're the only person I've had say the "fixed" versions aren't working.

All I can suggest is:

A) Triple-check that you did download the fixed versions.  The best way to do this is look in the \BDMV\STREAMS folder and count the M2TS files.  The fixed version should only have one M2TS file.

The only reason I'll really suggest checking this again is that the old version is still on Demonoid, along with Version 2.0.

B) Dowload the "fixed" MKV editions.  And, either burn them directly to a disc or convert them to AVCHD with TSMuxerGUI.

OmegaMattman said:

I don't know what to say.  So far, you're the only person I've had say the "fixed" versions aren't working.

All I can suggest is:

A) Triple-check that you did download the fixed versions.  The best way to do this is look in the \BDMV\STREAMS folder and count the M2TS files.  The fixed version should only have one M2TS file.

The only reason I'll really suggest checking this again is that the old version is still on Demonoid, along with Version 2.0.

B) Dowload the "fixed" MKV editions.  And, either burn them directly to a disc or convert them to AVCHD with TSMuxerGUI.

i just used the m2ts file i extracted from the iso and re-muxed it to avchd and burned it with nero as a udf 2.50 disc and it's working perfectly now.

Hi guys,

First post from a long-time reader.  My question is, anyone had any luck burning these discs on a Mac?

Mac success (and maybe for others as well)!  What Meetherbertwest posted worked flawlessly for me on my Mac.  Programs needed: Toast and TSMuxer (there is a Mac modification available);

1) Using Toast, mount the ISO

2) Navigate to the BDMV Folder, then Stream subfolder and copy/paste JUST the M2ts file to desktop

3) Using TSMuxer, input the M2ts and output to AVCHD

4) Burn the newly created BDMV folder using Toast

5)...That's it! pop in bd-player and enjoy!

If anyone has any questions, let me know.  

Let me just say that this project successfully makes a dream come true; it's a best quality possible version of the OOT; it's a true instance of film history preservation.  

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Update: they freeze

vmancini said:

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Update: they freeze

AVCHD's, you gotta love them LOL, they are not very compatible with a lot of players, and some methods of authoring do not help either, that's the drawback to using DVD's unfortunately.

vmancini said:

:( 

Update: they freeze

Did you download the "Fixed" versions or the originals?  The original Hyperspace set had a tendency to lock-up in some players (including my own after a time).

The only other suggestion I have is to download the MKV versions instead and convert them to AVCHD...or just play them as they are.  The video and audio streams are identical, so there's no drop in quality.

Sorry to everyone who's had so much trouble with these.  I honestly have no clue what the problem is.  And, from what I can tell on my own BD player (also a Sony), the "fixed" versions are working fine :/

The potential problem with converting the MKVs is, however, the ROTJ MKV is too; no?  It's already over 7Gig.  Once converted to AVCHD, won't it be too big to fit on DVD9? 

Okay, for some odd reason, I couldn't get TSMuxer to directly convert the MKV to AVCHD to check the size...but here's my solution:

1) Using the software of your choice, split the MKV back into its elementary streams.  (On PC, I just used MeGUI.)

2) Using TSMuxer, remultiplex the streams into an AVCHD.  Since, the MKVs are from teh same streams as the original AVCHDs, Jedi will be small enough to fit to fit a DVD9. (I just confirmed this in ImgBurn.)

Hey, just wanted to chime in and say that ANH looks really nice to me, at least.

Is there any chance you could post here the description from the supplements disc about your process? I don't really care about any of the extras themselves that much, but that part would be interesting to look at. Assuming there's more to it than what you've already specified in this thread.

Darnn said:

Is there any chance you could post here the description from the supplements disc about your process? I don't really care about any of the extras themselves that much, but that part would be interesting to look at. Assuming there's more to it than what you've already specified in this thread.

 The supplements disc doesn't really detail the process itself, just lists the sources and software used.

I'll be glad to post the full details in the next few days, as well as the original scripts.  Look for them on this post during the coming week.