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To be honest, I am not even really sure what I am suppose to be giving examples of.



It's of me stating opinions as facts, as seen in your next quotation:
"basically started with someone (RedFive) accusing me of "stating my opinions as facts"

RIGHT AFTER that part you quoted, I say:
"So don't bother with the examples that might justify you derailing this thread for 3 pages."

And honestly, after being told explicitely what you should be providing examples of, MULTIPLE TIMES, as, for instance, from this rather short post:

3) So where are the examples?
Alternatively, would you say that your accusations of me stating my "opinions" as "facts", were just your opinion, and an unfounded one at that?


you must be either trolling, or be incredibly, incredibly dumb.


Beyond skimming them for amusing quotes, I haven't really been reading any of your posts, just enough so I'd be able to make responses to egg you on in a behinds the scene conspiracy to build the perfect twooffour quote archive of all time.



Ah, so it's trolling, then! (Insult averted, Moth3r; I haven't called anyone a dunce this time!)

So basically, you've been saying intentionally stupid things, intentionally misrepresenting my posts (as intentionally as it gets when you aren't reading them, that is), in order to elicit "arrogant" posts from me like "you're wrong"?

I honestly don't give a crap about being trolled, but I sure do hope you at least realize the huge irony of that.
Though I have the horrible feeling that you don't.



and being so much more intelligent than everyone else



Like, for instance, a troll who says intentionally stupid things (but maybe couldn't do better than that even if he tried)?

What it feels like like... well, I'd say quite normal.




The fun thing "about" OPINIONS is they don't fucking have to be backed up by anything. They are "opinions" for a reason.



So this might be the first time someone here actually challenged a well-established definition supported by dictionaries, and the perpetrator is you.
Ain't that hilarious.

All I can say is, you either severely lack understanding of what an "opinion" is, or rather, the things this term can mean, or you're trolling.

Oh wait, my bad. Heh.
I hope you weren't serious with that one?



Interestingly enough, I seriously really don't even know what you are looking for examples of at this point. I'm sure I'd be willing to give them to you, but I am not really up for wading through your endless posts to figure out what I am meant to be giving examples of.



Heh...





And I feel really guilty about trolling



Fixed. Bye.


 

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twooffour said:

So basically, you've been saying intentionally stupid things, intentionally misrepresenting my posts.

No. The things I have been saying haven't been stupid. All I did was make a few responses to your posts in order to encourage you to keep on writing semi-amusing long-ass posts about how right you are. 

The only real irony in all of this is that most of my fellow off topic members would agree that everything you have been constantly accusing me of doing for the past few days, describe your own posting habits perfectly.

Anyway, there is a whole thread dedicated to giving you those examples you were looking for. I think you'll find every link on Frink's thread leads to an example of you being and doing everything we have accused you of (including the accusation that you think your opinions are facts).

 

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No. The things I have been saying haven't been stupid.



They have.

For example, when you accused me of redefining dictionaries without having first read my posts (lol), while I clearly hadn't (lol). Now, just in your last responsey, you did exactly this same thing yourself (lol). And now, you convenietly forget to address that (lol).

So I guess the stupid things you posted, were genuinely stupid. Well, thanks for being so honest. I've tried.

All I did was make a few responses to your posts in order to encourage you



So you were trolling, as said above. Thanks for the confirmation.


to keep on writing semi-amusing long-ass posts about how right you are.



In relation to stupid, substance-less troll posts. Yea, awesome achievement there.


The only real irony in all of this is that most of my fellow off topic members would agree that everything you have been constantly accusing me of doing for the past few days, describe your own posting habits perfectly.



It's an irony I'm perfectly aware of. I like being blunt and condescending when I want (and most of it is more or less tongue-in-cheek, anyway), but I don't remember myself getting all "rubbed the wrong way" by others doing so. I kinda don't care.

The question is, whether YOU are aware of the irony produced by you accusing me of being a "condescending asshole", while HAVING STARTED THIS WHOLE DEBACLE by being a... condescending asshole.



 

Anyway, there is a whole thread dedicated to giving you those examples you were looking for.



Really? Like, example of where I'm stating a taste as a well-founded view, and a well-founded view as a proven view? Lol, no.

3-4 of those examples were pure jokes (as I've said before - congrats on skipping), a half is semi-humorous, and the rest is me being honest about some really stupid statements.

Sorry, a few out-of-context laconic one-liners won't do it.
Almost none of those quotes even qualify as an "opinion" or "factual statement" - they just consist of snippets from which you can't tell in any way, shape, or form, what the discussion had been about in the first place.

FYI, in order to provide examples of someone stating their opinion as fact, the least you need would be... an example containing the alledged opinion.

You fail, SO, DAMN, HARD.


(including the accusation that you think your opinions are facts)


Lol. Any insult aimed at your intelligence, feel free to picture now. Because they'd all be completely accurate.

 

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twooffour said:

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Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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(It hasn’t happened yet)

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CP3S said:

twooffour said:

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You know, you're losing your edge.

Prior to this, you've at least managed to come off as a genuine dunce.
Nowadays, you just quote others' posts and replace everything with "fap fap".

Nice seeing what lame trolls have to resort to after they've accidentally blown their cover... first "no no no, that wasn't stupid, but I was still trolling!", then after being told how stupid it really was... "oh jeez... fap fap fap".
I think you've now become my least favorite person on this board!

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twooffour said:



CP3S said:


twooffour said:

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Ahhhhhhh.


 

"oh jeez... fap fap fap".
I think you've now become my least favorite person on this board!


I think it's great you two are bringing about more peaceful relations!


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CP3S said:

twooffour said:

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Ahhhhhhh.

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CP3S said:

I'll still vouch for Alien 3, but if I ever have to sit through Alien: Erection again, I'll intend to gouge out my own eyes and stuff them into my ears, hopefully it will make the experience just tolerable enough for me to make it through the film without having to end my own life, which I would be prepared to do if such an unbearable misfortune were to become a reality.

I think I'd actually rather suffer through watching Attack of the Clones* for a third time over watching Alien Resurrection for the second time.

 

 

*Though I really pissed off my friends by doing so, I am kind of proud to say the first time I watched Attack of the Clones I left twenty minutes or so in to go meet up with and make out with a girl I liked. Upon my return, which was after the end credits had rolled, I got some heavy "bros before hoes" lecturing. I felt kind of guilty about it and regretted not getting to see the film for the first time with my buddies, but in retrospect, I definitely made the right decision.

Alien Resurrection was a let down but it does have some good scenes, a couple of good performances, some great production values and a rather nice soundtrack.

Whedon says they filmed his script but got every aspect of it wrong (as in not as he imagined and described it).

Some of the scenes in the alternate cut work better than their theatrical cut counterparts (I still haven't seen a fan-edit of the film so maybe there is a recovery cut out there. If not someone should give it a try).

It's largely a tonal problem, the comedy aspects don't work because they are all pitched at the same level, only Ripley 8 (and possibly some of the genetically screwed up aliens) get any pathos to nuance the one size fits all goofy delivery. Winona's Cal is the only major new character not being a smart arse (most of the minor ones are as well) and like most of her oeuvre she wanders through a scene like an unemotional manikin (even though the script makes out she's meant to be more human than the humans).

Alien 3 had a lousy punch button soundtrack, some really dodgy special effects and the theatrical cut suffered death by a thousand cuts in the wrong places but on the whole it's better because there is more than one voice speaking (about three but that's better than just one and a fifth).

Alien 4 is disappointing but it's a much better film than AOTC and is as underrated as Aliens is overrated.

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This thread has nothing to do with rational discussion of anything.

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According to TV Tropes (probably not just, but that's where I read it), there was some conflict between Whedon, who wanted a camp farce, and the studio, who wanted a serious horror movie, so it sort of became a mess.

But I haven't seen it myself :)



Harry Potter 4 was pretty damn good, although probably not as compact as the previous one.
The 5th was somewhat of a mess, though...

Plinkett's Nemesis review is awesome - but then again, so is everything else by him, so what the heck...

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Bingowings said: 

Alien Resurrection was a let down but it does have some good scenes, a couple of good performances, some great production values and a rather nice soundtrack.

Alien 4 is disappointing but it's a much better film than AOTC and is as underrated as Aliens is overrated.

I've only actually seen Alien: Resurrection once. I should probably give it a second viewing and see if I still feel it is as bad as I do now.

I really want to get that Alien blu-ray set sometime, I kind of wish I could get just the trilogy with all the extras, but I guess it will give me a good opportunity to rewatch Alien 4.

 

I agree with you that its problem had mostly to do with tone. Tone and atmosphere are two things that have always really grabbed me about the Alien movies. Tone and atmosphere are pretty much the only things about Alien 3 I like, but the atmosphere is so perfect in that film, IMHO, that I actually really enjoy the experience every time I see it, despite its fairly lousy story. Alien 4 traded in that atmosphere we've come to expect from the Alien flicks for a goofy brand of humor, which I appreciated in Delicatessen and The City of Lost Children, but just didn't work for me in the Alien universe.

 

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Now you guys are ALL doing it wrong.

I has a sad.

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doubleKO said:

Car crashed into sign reading

Is this your car twooffour?

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You know, there was like a five minute stretch a few days ago where twooffour made me laugh twice.  And for one brief moment, I "almost" liked him.

That day seems like ages ago.

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TV's Frink said:

You know, there was like a five minute stretch a few days ago where twooffour made me laugh twice.  And for one brief moment, I "almost" liked him.

But come on, ain't that Serj gif pretty cute? :)

That day seems like ages ago.

Yea, it was a day when you were still receptive to irony.
That day may come back, but you'll have to let it.

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Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

Next you'll be trying to convince me you actually read his posts or that you have a sense of humor.  Pshaw...

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Gaff, let me tell you something.  I hate myself sooooo much now that twooffour has shown me the error of my ways.  I just hope someday I can learn to be as correct and as hilarious as he is.

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TV's Frink said:

Gaff, let me tell you something.  I hate myself sooooo much now that twooffour has shown me the error of my ways.  I just hope someday I can learn to be as correct and as hilarious as he is.

I just found it ironic how you complained about me not making you laugh anymore, right after a sarcasm joke fail on your part :D
That's all.

Oh, and gotta love the unintentional irony of someone saying the right thing in sarcasm mode :D
Wanted to say that, too.

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Oh man, now I realize my sarcasm joke fail too!  I hate myself even more!!!1!!

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Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

Wherever you got that idea from, Gaff.

Speaking of unintentional irony (once more, duh), here's a question:
You're having a debate with somebody, and your opponent bluntly tells you that you're wrong.
Which is the more pleasant thought, that he just happens to treat you this way because of the specifics of the discussion, or that he treats everyone like this, independent of the specifics, at all times?

Which one rather conveniently excludes the possibility (in your mind) that the "problem" may, at least partially, be on your part?


So let's say you witness the same behavior from that person in some other instances.
Does it follow from that in any way, that this behavior can't possibly stem from the specifics, too? Can you even tell without looking into it?


It's amazing how accusing someone else of exaggerated arrogance, may actually be a display of fantastic arrogance itself.
A bit like some "humble" Christians calling out those "proud scientists" while themselves claiming to know the answers to all important questions (unlike the scientists).
Or supporters of pseudoscience or paranormal claims claiming the others to just "dismiss them out of hand", because then they couldn't possibly be dismissed for holding no water.

Ah, delicious irony is delicious.