Yeah, for me, at least from what I've seen, Moth3r's PAL LD transfers were the best pre-GOUT transfers and there is indeed less DVNR in them but the presence of analog noise trips the favour towards the GOUT for me. Maybe if an even better transfer of those PAL LDs could be done and then someone went medieval on it's ass with some script similar to what DJ's is using for his project Blu but developed especially for the PAL transfer (as the problems that would need be adressed would differ from the GOUT) we could get something that would be better than the GOUT. Maybe some combination could be made picking the best looking scenes from both transfers.