It's a Cap!
Wait. That's not in the prequels...
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Well, in that case I'd say, we had already experienced "the menace" in the previous scenes where the Jedis hack the robots to pieces, and then again, when they're running from the massive tanks and yet the robots don't give a shit about them.
Telling a "joke" that moment was the only appropriate decision, I'd say. Following a cartoon rabbit into some city while they're trying to warn the invaded? Not so much.
TV's Frink said:
Hey, cap's back!
You catch on pretty quick.
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twooffour said:
And her accent is annoying, too.
Sheesh.
TV's Frink said:
twooffour said:
David Bowie's accent is sexy, too.
Sheesh. Weirdo.
That's a bit harsh. I think David Bowie's voice is sexy too.
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xhonzi said:
The PT would not have fared well without the goodwill engendered by the OT.
Without the enormous success of the OT, Lucas might not have had absolute control and too big of a head to accept creative input from others. With a more humble or less powerful Lucas, the PT might have been a lot better. Even without making big changes to the story, just having a decent writer touch up the dialog would have gone a long way.
That's true, but a different argument. I could have been more clear:
xhonzi said:
The existing PT would not have fared well financially without the goodwill engendered by the OT.
You'll get no argument from me that a GL making a PT without the power* of having made one of the most successful franchises of all time would have probably been better.
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greenpenguino said:
TV's Frink said:
twooffour said:
David Bowie's accent is sexy, too.
Sheesh. Weirdo.
That's a bit harsh. I think David Bowie's voice is sexy too.
You people are obsessed.
The scenes where nobody is talking. Strangely enough, I'm able to enjoy the prequel trilogy better than the SEs.
^That makes sense. The SE rapes the OOT, while the PT only rapes itself.
Well many agree that stuff like the midichlorians, frog Yoda, spastic lightsaber battles, etc rape what we love about the OOT (what's the second "O" for?).
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
Well many agree that stuff like the midichlorians, frog Yoda, spastic lightsaber battles, etc rape what we love about the OOT (what's the second "O" for?).
I didn't quite follow your sentence structure, but to answer your question:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-originaltrilogy-com-acronym-buster/topic/6810/
And DE, can we please retire the rape analogy?
Not so much a structure problem, rather the use of plural (rape) to follow a singular word (stuff). The correct sentence would have been "Well many agree that stuff like the midichlorians, frog Yoda, spastic lightsaber battles, etc; rapes what we love about the OOT (what's the second "O" for?)."
As for the Raped Star Wars ordeal, would "ruined" be a better term?
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
Not so much a structure problem, rather the use of plural (rape) to follow a singular word (stuff). The correct sentence would have been "Well many agree that stuff like the midichlorians, frog Yoda, spastic lightsaber battles, etc; rapes what we love about the OOT (what's the second "O" for?)."
As for the Raped Star Wars ordeal, would "ruined" be a better term?
The missing "s" threw me off and made me read the sentence differently, thanks for the clarification.
And yes, "ruined" would be infinitely better.
I thought "rape" was only bad to use if used in a "George Lucas raped my childhood" way. Guess I was wrong, though. I won't use it again =D
Asaki said:
Jar Jar aside, I'm probably the only one on this forum who actually liked the prequels ¬_¬ I wish they weren't a huge bad-CGI-fest, but somehow I'm able to look past that and really get into them in a way that I probably shouldn't. Maybe it's only because I missed out seeing the original trilogy in theatres, and seeing Eps 2 and 3 on the big screen was a pretty big event for me.
*runs to hide from the slings and arrows*
You aren't alone. I too like the prequels. We just aren't as loud about it as those who don't.
Things I liked:
-Obi-Wan in Episode 2 and 3.
-The Battle of Geonosis
-Count Dooku
-Anakin's Downfall
-The entire Tatooine segment in episode 2
-Almost everything in episode 3 after the death of General Grievous
-The opera house scene.
-Yoda's Lightsaber! The primary reason why almost all episode 2 and 3 fanedits fall flat for me.
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The Asian accents the Nemoidians have (one of the many controversial aspects) I actually dig, they remind me of the AIP dubs for the Godzilla movies.
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
The Asian accents the Nemoidians have (one of the many controversial aspects) I actually dig, they remind me of the AIP dubs for the Godzilla movies.
I always found that outrage funny/sad. So I guess everyone in a diverse, alien-filled space population has to talk with a straight, no-accent American English voice? Everyone has to sound the same or it's racism? Is that what they want? Bland non-diversity?
I don't remember seeing any British outrage when all the members of the evil Empire spoke with their accent.
Some of these folks need to find a hobby like stamp collecting or something so they're not bothering the rest of us with their bullshit. =P
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Tyrphanax said:
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
The Asian accents the Nemoidians have (one of the many controversial aspects) I actually dig, they remind me of the AIP dubs for the Godzilla movies.
I always found that outrage funny/sad. So I guess everyone in a diverse, alien-filled space population has to talk with a straight, no-accent American English voice? Everyone has to sound the same or it's racism? Is that what they want? Bland non-diversity?
I don't remember seeing any British outrage when all the members of the evil Empire spoke with their accent.
Some of these folks need to find a hobby like stamp collecting or something so they're not bothering the rest of us with their bullshit. =P
While calling it "racist" is certainly way too OTT, I would agree in so far as that giving aliens Earthly accents is, well, extremely *silly*.
Having everyone talking English is one thing - it's a way to better connect with the audience and just forget about the whole inconvenient diversity thing.
Having aliens talk in some completely alien language? Works, too._
But making them French? Or "urban"? Or Chinese? That just rips through suspension of disbelief, and is good only for two things:
-allegory (gotta be careful with that)
-shameless camp humor (of which EpI didn't have just enough)
The only way to make a believable ethnic alien, is by having them acknowledge the actual ethnicity and culture on earth, and copying or imitating it for some understandable reason.
The Merovingian in the Matrix sequels obviously liked "being French", so he just made it so. Still can be taken as a stealth jab at French stereotypes, but it's believable in its own universe.
The Neimoidians? Ahhh....
Darth Bizarro said:
Yoda's Lightsaber! The primary reason why almost all episode 2 and 3 fanedits fall flat for me.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Darth Bizarro said:
Yoda's Lightsaber! The primary reason why almost all episode 2 and 3 fanedits fall flat for me.
Boo-urns!
Yeah, that's a major fail.
twooffour said:
Tyrphanax said:
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
The Asian accents the Nemoidians have (one of the many controversial aspects) I actually dig, they remind me of the AIP dubs for the Godzilla movies.
I always found that outrage funny/sad. So I guess everyone in a diverse, alien-filled space population has to talk with a straight, no-accent American English voice? Everyone has to sound the same or it's racism? Is that what they want? Bland non-diversity?
I don't remember seeing any British outrage when all the members of the evil Empire spoke with their accent.
Some of these folks need to find a hobby like stamp collecting or something so they're not bothering the rest of us with their bullshit. =P
...I would agree in so far as that giving aliens Earthly accents is, well, extremely *silly*.
Having everyone talking English is one thing - it's a way to better connect with the audience and just forget about the whole inconvenient diversity thing.
These two things don't seem to make sense together!
Of course, if you want to go full-OT, ANH has Greedo, and the kubaz, and Ponda, and a few others who didn't speak English. Even Jabba was dubbed.
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Tyrphanax said:
twooffour said:
Tyrphanax said:
Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:
The Asian accents the Nemoidians have (one of the many controversial aspects) I actually dig, they remind me of the AIP dubs for the Godzilla movies.
I always found that outrage funny/sad. So I guess everyone in a diverse, alien-filled space population has to talk with a straight, no-accent American English voice? Everyone has to sound the same or it's racism? Is that what they want? Bland non-diversity?
I don't remember seeing any British outrage when all the members of the evil Empire spoke with their accent.
Some of these folks need to find a hobby like stamp collecting or something so they're not bothering the rest of us with their bullshit. =P
...I would agree in so far as that giving aliens Earthly accents is, well, extremely *silly*.
Having everyone talking English is one thing - it's a way to better connect with the audience and just forget about the whole inconvenient diversity thing.These two things don't seem to make sense together!
Of course, if you want to go full-OT, ANH has Greedo, and the kubaz, and Ponda, and a few others who didn't speak English. Even Jabba was dubbed.
I'm just saying that you either have everyone talking English, or if you need alien languages for "realism", MAKE THEM ALIEN.
If they get to speak French, or have an Italian accent or whatever, playing it straight will probably result in awkwardness. That's all I was saying :)
Technically, no one speaks English in SW. Basic is the name of their language ;-)
Now that's racist! :D