xhonzi said:

I'll admit I haven't caught up on all of the E3 stuff. I'm still a little surprised they're hawking it so hard when it's still a release for next year. Maybe even late next year. ?

Has anything you've seen made you think it won't feature anti-caricatured-extreme-patriotism theme? Or at least, not in a way that won't come across as condescending to actual/literal patriots?

I agree, they seem to be pushing the hype really hard for a game that has a release date of December 2012.

I never actually quite understood your concern about the Patriotism thing to begin with, but no, nothing I have seen has given me that indication. However, I tend to feel patriotism can be, and often is, a really dumb thing. I am the guy who has refused to say the pledge of allegiance since he was in the fourth grade because it struck him as weird to force children to express their undying devotion to stuff they may not believe in or even understand on a daily basis.

Ken Levine kind of explained the premise of the floating city as a means to fly around the world and show everyone how great and wonderful the US is. This brand of extreme patriotism (and the idea of American exceptionalism taken to an extremist levels) rub me the wrong way to the extreme, so I am not going to be offended if they tear that sort of behavior apart.

But you and I might be coming from very different angles on this.