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TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

If you never want to talk to/interact with a real person... I don't think you have to.

Says the guy without a face.

Hey, don't steal my bit.

DuracellEnergizer said:

What sucks about these games is that they're considered canon. How do you canonize something that has a variable nature like a video game anyway? Stupid EU ...

What they've done in the past with most of the single-player video games, is the light side ending is the canon ending. KOTOR and Jedi Outcast and all are canonically light-sided. They also assume 100% completion of the game.

However, what they did with SWG is made it so everything is canon but the player character and their personal choices: for an SWG questgiver NPC it'll say something like "This person contracted a group of spacers to do X for them" and it assumes quest completion, but doesn't go into the details so it doesn't step on a player's character's personal canon.

It will be interesting to see what they do with TOR since the player supposedly plays such a huge role in galactic events (like in a single-player game), and because there's so much variance in quest dialogue choices and light and dark side leanings within that which can drastically effect the outcome of the player's personal game storyline (like in an MMO). I'm hoping they keep it somewhat ambiguous like they did with SWG and not just canonize just one path for everyone and interfere with the way I want to play my character as opposed to the canon-deigned way you're "supposed" to play the game. What they're doing here is making a game wherein everyone is basically playing a somewhat different single-player game based on their own choices (in terms of story), but they're playing it in the same overall game as thousands of other players. It'll be interesting to see how it works: will players have the freedom to control how their version of the game ends, or is Bioware pushing an overarching storyline?

But Bioware is a good company. They'll probably do a great job of it whichever way they decide to go. I'm really excited for this game.

TV's Frink said:

That's your bit?  Huh.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Whatever-happened-to-whatshisface/post/505006/#TopicPost505006

:P   ;)

Way more interested in Mass Effect 3, star wars has been done to death.

TV's Frink said:

skyjedi2005 said:

star wars has been done to death.

You are not qualified to determine when something has been done to death.

ROFL.

Monolithium said:

So much better than anything in the prequels.

I think that's a very exaggerated remark.

kilik64 said:

I concur. Hopefully its better than 2 though, 2 was decent but they went TOO streamlined from one. Hopefully this one has a nice balance.

Agreed. Where's my TPS/RPG hybrid Bioware?

Tobar said:

Alexrd said:

Monolithium said:

So much better than anything in the prequels.

I think that's a very exaggerated remark.

I think it's spot on and I've heard it from multiple people.

 Seconded.

TheBoost said:

xhonzi said:

Tobar said:

Alexrd said:

Monolithium said:

So much better than anything in the prequels.

I think that's a very exaggerated remark.

I think it's spot on and I've heard it from multiple people.

 Seconded.

So a couple generic Jedi fighting a Matrix fight against a couple generic Sith lords while Not-Han-Solo flies the Mellenium Faux-con passed some Star Destroyers is somehow better than the prequals?

Wow, we're easy to please. I never imagined the problem with the prequals was that Lucas tried too hard.

 

I challenge you to write a better intro cinematic that feels Star Warsy without taking elements and concepts from already-established Star Wars lore like Bioware and Blur did. =P

The whole point of the thing wasn't to be different, it was to be Star Warsy, and it succeeded. They have about seven minutes to relay all of this information to us, so they use things we know on sight. Boom, these are the good guys, this is the cocky comedic relief, these are the Jedi, here come the bad guy ships, here are the Sith, good and evil fight, here's the good guys' escape route, and done. The themes are caricatures that are simple enough to invoke our memories of what we already know, but, at the same time, different.

You immediately know who everyone is and what their part is on sight because we're so well-versed in Star Wars, and even people who aren't as knowledgeable about such things will also know at a glance what it going on. I'm sure that if they had a two-hour movie (or three) to grow and develop characters, they'd have done that instead. If you had to show someone only seven minutes of the Star Wars trilogy, would you not distil it down to the most iconic scenes and character developments so you could still get the point across?

Beyond that, it's also a showcase of the different "Iconic Classes" in the game: from sight, we have Republic Troopers (one as a Commando and the other as a Vanguard), a Smuggler (Advanced Class Gunslinger), a Jedi Knight (Advanced Class Guardian), and a Jedi Consular (Advanced Class Shadow). On the Sith side we have a Sith Warrior (Advanced Class Juggernaut) and a Sith Inquisitor (Advanced Class Assassin). You might even decide what class to play based on how cool one of these archetypes looked in this cinematic. That's the other big goal here aside from saying "Check out this new STAR WARS game!"

Also, the big Sith is Darth Malgus who's been in every one of these trailers so far, and the Jedi girl is Satele Shan who was in the second trailer, and I'm pretty sure the surviving trooper is also from the second trailer. So if you're keeping up on these (or anything TOR), you should know who most of the characters are by now.

TheBoost said:

xhonzi said:

Tobar said:

Alexrd said:

Monolithium said:

So much better than anything in the prequels.

I think that's a very exaggerated remark.

I think it's spot on and I've heard it from multiple people.

 Seconded.

So a couple generic Jedi fighting a Matrix fight against a couple generic Sith lords while Not-Han-Solo flies the Mellenium Faux-con passed some Star Destroyers is somehow better than the prequals?

Wow, we're easy to please. I never imagined the problem with the prequals was that Lucas tried too hard.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not over the moon with this trailer.  I just think it's better (and more Star Warsy) than all of the Prequel Trilogy.  Doesn't mean "I like it."

BloodnoseThePirate said:

New Gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LToSetCKIHo&feature=player_embedded#at=337

After reading the impressions on massively , I might just stick with LOTRO. I don't know that I feel like grinding and slashing through another game. The story element is interesting and hope there is a free trial to see if that makes up for the lacking novelty of gameplay.

Tobar said:

Alexrd said:

Monolithium said:

So much better than anything in the prequels.

I think that's a very exaggerated remark.

I think it's spot on and I've heard it from multiple people.

That doesn't make it less exaggerated.

TheBoost said:

But it is just a trailer. It doesn't have to or try to tell a real story or have character development or any depth.

This.

TheBoost said:

I'm not denying that it's really nifty. Hell, I love the KOTORS.

But it is just a trailer. It doesn't have to or try to tell a real story or have character development or any depth. I seem to recall the trailers to TPM were awesome-possum as well because they too didn't have to do anything but look neat and remind of us of other things we already liked.

So... er... doesn't that mean it's just about perfect as a trailer?

TheBoost said:

 

(except making me ask why you'd need a hat in space?)

Yeah... why would he need to wear a hat....

Hmmmm...