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Originally posted by: Warbler
First thing, I am not a conservative nor liberal. I consider myself neither Democrat nor Republican. I consider myself independent. Second I too hate Bush. I think he lied to us and I think he is a bad president I never voted for him nor do I intend to. Has America made mistakes? Of course it has. I'm not saying that we are angels, all I'm trying to say is that there is no justication for murder. And I know I'm going to get you all ranting and raving at me, but murder is not the same as making war. Vietnam,Korea, and Iraq are wars(maybe not justified wars but wars none the less),The first attack on the twin towers was not war, 911 was not a war, the beheading of an innocent civilian is not war they were murder. I don't want to kill innocent people. I just want these murderers brought to justice. If these people had legitimate gripes they should have stated them. One of the great things about America is that we have the freedom of speech. They could have come here and made there gripes known. I at least would have listened but instead they choose to attack us. That is not the way to solve your problems volence is the last resort, not the first. That goes for the USA as well.
As for Iraq. Were Bushes reasons for going to war correct? no, he lied about the WMDs and the connection with terrorists. However, is Iraq better off without Saddam? I would have to beleive that the people of Iraq would have to say yes. I'm not saying that they are better off with the USA controlling their Country, But I just can't believe that they would actually want to live under Saddam's murderous cruel dictatorship. Does that justify our war to remove him? I don't know. But I think right now whether or not we were right in our invasion, we just can't eave Iraq untill it has a stable government otherwise we risk another Saddam or worst another Hitler.
As for why people hate the USA. That is a difficult question. I think its for different reasons. I think some think we are evil. Others just hate Capitalism and/or democracy. Others hate us because they think we hate them. Some of it has also has to do with religion. But I think one reason that is not often talked about is I think people hate us because its cool to hate us. They think by opposing the most powerful nation on the earth that , that somehow makes them brave and noble I believe alot of you fall into the last category. Its easy to think that such a powerful country is evil but that doesn't make it so. I'm sorry for being such an evil arrogant American but thats the way I am.
There is so much wrong with what you just said I don't even know where to begin. First of all Iraq did have connection with terrorists. Why do you think there are so many there. He was harboring terrorists who were ploting attacks on America. He was also evil and genosidal. They found death camps where he commited thousands of innocent people to death. You want to talk about murder thats just pure murder. He has that Hitlar montality though he never had the power to become anything like Hitler. Most of the Iraqi people are happy Saddam is gone. He never lied about the weapons. The United Nations had accurate intellegence that he had all these weapons. Nobody not even France disputed these intellegence. He offered no evidence he ever destroyed them. Just because we haven't found them doesn't mean they didn't excist. He could have shiped them out of the country, a bomb could have destroyed them there are a number of posibilitys but George Bush did not lie. You want to talk about lying politicians how about "I took the inicitive into inventing the internet" or even better "I did not have sexual relations with that women"