Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 21

Well, he's talking about Obi's skin but in the SE he's purple and just look at the colour of his skin in the GOUT, totally orange. And if you discolour people more than I did, they start looking like their ill and I seriously dislike that look.

timdiggerm said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Mmm, Obi Wan too orange, too baked.

 

Flesh tones, Harmy. Flesh tones.

So you're saying the robe should be black?

 You're like a gumball machine that dispenses non sequiturs instead of gumballs.

timdiggerm said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Mmm, Obi Wan too orange, too baked.

 

Flesh tones, Harmy. Flesh tones.

So you're saying the robe should be black?

If I had to pick between a black robe a blazingly orange face I'd go with the black robe, although I'm not sure why you'd have to choose between the two. It looks like he's been spray painted.

 This is how Obi Wan appeared in the original theatrical run:

 http://savestarwars.com/images/senatorcorrected/technicolor15.jpg 

http://savestarwars.com/images/senatorcorrected/technicolor8.jpg

Very, very natural flesh tone. On the pale side, if anything.

 

If I had to pick between a black robe a blazingly orange face I'd go with the black robe, although I'm not sure why you'd have to choose between the two. It looks like he's been spray painted.

This is how Obi Wan appeared in the original theatrical run:

http://savestarwars.com/images/senatorcorrected/technicolor15.jpg

http://savestarwars.com/images/senatorcorrected/technicolor8.jpg

 

Very, very natural flesh tone. On the pale side, if anything.

I jst watched the Lightsaber fight again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXQdAsqKgw0

Obi is NOT too orange. He may look a bit orange in that one pic but not in the overall clip I saw.

I personally disagree with them and think Obi-Wan looks fine in that shot. Just saying.

Thanks for the support guys :-)

hey harmy, awesome work.  do you have a possible release date?  no hurry though.

if you are still taking color issues i noticed that when vader is talking to the guy and he says "there's no one on board sir, according to the log the crew abandoned ship right after take off" that his skin is a little too white.

Lol, stinky must really like his white ppl white ;-)

as always can't wait for this amazing release harmy.

TV's Frink said:
Them who?  Isn't Stink the only one....er...making a stink?

Well, yeah, I'm taking a little break now. I'm not not working on it but I was getting so tired of it, that I decided to work at a slower pace. This shouldn't affect the release date too badly, it should still be finished in a week or two.

And those technicolour pictures can't be taken as a perfect reference, they are just pictures taken by a digital camera from a cinema screen after all and they're definitely too bright and also quite blue-shifted (look at Obi's hair and Luke's shoulder) and slightly green-shifted (Luke's hair):

Once you correct those issues, you get something like this:

(I admit I may have gone a step too far but you see my point.)

EDIT: Here's this frame from my latest workprint:

I'm sorry man, but that's just not reasonable. They are too bright because of the way they were captured but even after adjusted for brightness they can still be used as a fantastic color timing reference, the first shot looks completely natural and the second one is way off, it looks like he put lipstick on and sat under the sun for 6 days straight. Why would you think that's more accurate than how the technicolor presentation actually appears? Makes no sense at all.

Looks fine to me, though remains a highly peripheral issue.

Great news to hear the release is coming soon. I need to purchase something that can playback blu-ray. lol

I'll ride this dirtbike into the sunset now Frink, but I'll never forget we left eachother on a sour note.

TV's Frink said:

Sour note?

...

You know I'll always love you more than Rob ever could.

 Remember me for my body and my super accurate flesh tones.

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Why would you think that's more accurate than how the technicolor presentation actually appears? Makes no sense at all.

I added the same Obi-Wan frame from my latest workprint to this post.

Rob said:

timdiggerm said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Mmm, Obi Wan too orange, too baked.

 

Flesh tones, Harmy. Flesh tones.

So you're saying the robe should be black?

 You're like a gumball machine that dispenses non sequiturs instead of gumballs.

 I've done some thinking and I willing to pop on that cast iron non sequitur dispenser at $35.00 just so we can break the ice here. That's cash. It's not in great shape but I love the sun baked stuff and it has some really nice lines. I know you're at $50.00 but there's just no meat left on the bone for me at that price, that's full blown retail. Let me look around some more and maybe we can bundle it with some smalls. It  might take me a while, this honey hole has tonnage and I'm already pretty junk drunk.

That Star Wars in concert pic is not valid comparison. During that show they use brightly colored lights, lasers, and other lighting effects that hugely effect how it appears on screen. It's less about a faithful presentation of the movie and more of a light and orchestra show.

That's not the case with the Technicolor screening, it was purely about faithful presentation. The flesh tones in those pics are completely natural, it's not as if faces appeared intensely red and orange on the screen and the camera magically made the fleshtones appear natural. That's how the film was intended to look, color timing wise.

I'm also junk drunk.

Well, yeah, they didn't appear insanely red, they probably appeared quite natural like they do in the corrected picture I posted (well, at least natural for someone who just spent some time shooting a film in Tunisia).

There was no magic involved, the overexposure just made the camera brighten and blue/cyan shift the whole image, which is the only thing I tweaked about it (oh, and I turned saturation down a bit).