SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 51

I have been looking at your Dooku fight scenes again and they got me thinking.

Many people think the Yoda/Dooku duel in AOTC was a mistake and there are many edits which trim that whole sequence down to a minimum.

While ROTS is perhaps a bit too duel laden this one had the makings of something special (especially now you have removed the old guy flipping around like crazy).

In an ideal world this would be where Anakin finds out that Palpatine is the Sith and Dooku (or better still Qui-Gon) was right but too late because he has killed him.

Why Anakin should be so cut up about his role in the death of Snape Windu when all the guy seemed to do is put him down and dis the kid is beyond me.

What was needed was something a bit more tragic like, being tricked into killing the last hope of repelling Sith rule of the galaxy, by a man he thought for all his life was a good friend but he couldn't snitch on because he might be able to keep his wife alive, but I digress...

Could some AOTC off trims be used to extend this fight so the Yoda vs Palpatine one could be reduced to something a bit more dignified for both the light and dark side?

This is the nearest we get to a OT style saber duel in the PT and it is over too suddenly without Anakin really being pushed into doing the naughty stuff.

I've been thinking about giving a WTF moment to the PT, and considering some suggestions Bingowings has made of Anakin having a double personality ala Jekyll/Hyde... What if Anakin was, only in a way, a host for something? Implicitly suggesting of course, that the same prophecy the Jedi have, the Sith had it too. Rather easily established, this way you would be separating Anakin from suited Vader in a rather curious way, and making Vader stop being "an asshole in a suit".

"The end of the war is near, General. I sense Lord Vader is close"

"Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Vader the wise?"

So we don't know who this Vader is, but we get the impression the guy is very important as a weapon, until the end when we see him in action.And it is a very good pretext for editing some non Vaderish dialogue in ANH just to leave "you're powers are weak old man. you should not have come back" (erase every reference of ObiWan and Vader knowing each other. Ben lies to Luke in Tatooine because he just can't tell a teenager "hey I fought against your father and left him to die in a lava river" if he wants Luke to join him). They know who Vader is by the Force

Anakin is still the tragic figure. Vader is still the badass we get to see in the OT. We never get to see how the score in the inner match they're playing inside the robosuit. Only Luke feels it.

Anakin as the most powerful of Jedi, and this "ancient" sith, Vader, as the most powerful of Sith... nice metaphore of the balance of the Force, don't you think?.

PS: There are some great ideas in the Revenge of the Cut edit. Not radical, nor very plot-based. But some dialogues have been really enhanced; like Grievous giving reputation to the name Skywalker or the dialogue between anakin and obiwan just when they arrive to Coruscant. It reminds me a little of Han/Luke conversations in Hoth.

bobgarcia74 said:

Take #1 of the senate clip. Also changed up 3po's line about flying, and yet again removed shots of ships taking off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpCJZrfWujs

 

Alright!

The flesh colours in the PT holograms were not the same as the OT ones.

You could argue that hologram technology had moved on in the years between trilogies and it's like comparing colour television to monochrome but I don't buy that myself.

Lovely as those images are they are in their own way just as different from the OT era holograms as the original PT versions.

Did they make the PT holograms in the same way or was it a simulation of the way they looked in the OT (because it didn't work if they are meant to look the same).

I'm loving what you're doing with this fanedit. Definitely looking forward to it.

brilliant idea!

That is a pretty neat idea.

The console thing needs a bit of reworking.

I know the screen was positioned there to avoid having to manipulate Ewan's arm but it's more at droid/Jawa height than humanoid height and the droid computer interface would rule out the need for a screen for droids.

As far as I can remember I've never seen a Separatist Astrodroid.

Their fighters are droids and those little silver 'umba-lumpa' droids (briefly seen in TPM) appear to do internal repairs so what's that lug-in point doing there anyway?

It might make sense to add a few astrodroids onto their ships in the PT as the interface serves a key role in that scene (as does the one in the droid factory in AOTC).

Bingowings said:

That is a pretty neat idea.

The console thing needs a bit of reworking.

I know the screen was positioned there to avoid having to manipulate Ewan's arm but it's more at droid/Jawa height than humanoid height and the droid computer interface would rule out the need for a screen for droids.

As far as I can remember I've never seen a Separatist Astrodroid.

Their fighters are droids and those little silver 'umba-lumpa' droids (briefly seen in TPM) appear to do internal repairs so what's that lug-in point doing there anyway?

It might make sense to add a few astrodroids onto their ships in the PT as the interface serves a key role in that scene (as does the one in the droid factory in AOTC).

Well, you can look at it as a printer port on your computer. You don't necessarily need/use it (with all the USBs hanging around), but it's still there and, who knows, it may come in handy someday. :D 

haraldo23 said: Well, you can look at it as a printer port on your computer. You don't necessarily need/use it (with all the USBs hanging around), but it's still there and, who knows, it may come in handy someday. :D

We aren't talking about a domestic home here.

If you were to go to a factory or a large office you would find at least one printer using a 'port' and these ships and factories were built specifically for these people (probably by some of them) and yet don't seem to have the droids that use these data terminals at all.

As I mentioned in the post on the other thread, it does seem a bit daft that battledroids seem to do almost everything for the Separatists.

Surely the point of a battledroid is to do battle, having mundane droids doing menial duties would allow the battledroids to concentrate on physical fighting.

What exactly are these huge ships for?

I know the Federation ships were originally meant to be giant freight carriers but that doesn't explain the huge numbers of lit windows and corridors full of breathable air, especially if droids do almost everything for them.

If by the time of the Clone Wars they are just troop carriers TPM showed how many droid troops could fold into a very small space.

There are hangers for the landing vehicles and the fighter droids but a normal Federation ship is apparently bigger than a Star Destroyer which carries people who breath.

It's not like the Separatists are invading Coruscant (they are just kidnapping the Chancellor) so why so many huge ships full of air filled corridors and data terminals that don't seem to fit the droids they have?

This stuff Bingowings has posted about astrodroids could be a great chance to make something characteristical of the separatists. I always liked the idea of Adywan of putting some old battledroid in the Sandcrawler, it gives nostalgia and makes you feel like the galaxy hasn't yet forgotten the clone wars. That battledroid there is something that takes you back to the PT and gives consistency.

So, in line with Bingo's suggestion, why don't you establish that some specifical astrodroid (let's say the cubic-headed) were the separatists astrodroids, while the round-headed, like artoo, were the republic's? So that when you get to the OT and see them all mixed up you think "hey separatist astrodroids are civil goods now", or something like that.

There was also another idea hanged here in OT.com, it was actually gonna be in some ANH edit, of Artoo intentionally attacking the cubic headed astrodroid in the sandcrawler (the one that explodes when Luke and Owen pick it). It'd add another feeling to that idea if artoo attacked it because he recognized it as an old foe from the clone wars (unlike threepio, he's never been re-programmed)..

Mithrandir said:

There was also another idea hanged here in OT.com, it was actually gonna be in some ANH edit, of Artoo intentionally attacking the cubic headed astrodroid in the sandcrawler (the one that explodes when Luke and Owen pick it)..