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skyjedi2005 said:

Other things like his bad dialog for the carbon freeze scene that Harrison changed on set, can be forgiven since Kersh allowed him to change it.

 "I know" - one of the best lines in the whole trilogy.

Doesnt work now that greedo shoots first, Han aint so much of a badass after that...

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Darth Id said:


What's most astounding is that he takes great, funny snide remarks delivered with peerless spirit (otherwise known as great humor), such as "You're brave than I thought," and thinks it's "dumb humor" because he mistakes it for crass innuendo, due to the incessant proximity of his mind to the gutter.

On the other hand, the bit where Han is pushing on Leia's hindquarters as she grimaces and manipulates a giant rod, I do think was intentionally suggestive, albeit too subtle for a kid to ever wonder, "wait what's going on?"


Innuendo? No. I never picked up on it unless taken out of context without the pictures.

The mouse droid is borderline Prequel humour as is R2-D2 toppling with a cute scream as he gets stunned by the jawas. However it's not awful, but it is dumb in my opinion. Where dumb is defined as "lacking intelligence or good judgment; stupid; dull-witted."

Leia's "walking carpet" line has always bugged me, do we even see a carpet anywhere in the trilogy? It's an instant back-to-Earth-ism for me that line. And it's not even funny. "Nerf herder"? Thank you ESB!

Of course, I also had to filter out the Star Wars SE awful awful awful dumb humour, which makes the regular dumb humour passable and hardly worth mentioning because there is so little of it - but it is there.

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You don't see a "Nerf Herder" either but that's ok I suppose?

 

As for carpets, nope we don't see them, but being a Princess, I'm sure Leia had a few shag piles in her palace! ;)

 

See what I did there??!?!

 

 

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miker71 said:

 

Where dumb is defined as "lacking intelligence or good judgment; stupid; dull-witted."

I like this guy.

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miker71 said:


The mouse droid is borderline Prequel humour as is R2-D2 toppling with a cute scream as he gets stunned by the jawas. However it's not awful, but it is dumb in my opinion. Where dumb is defined as "lacking intelligence or good judgment; stupid; dull-witted."

Leia's "walking carpet" line has always bugged me, do we even see a carpet anywhere in the trilogy? It's an instant back-to-Earth-ism for me that line. And it's not even funny. "Nerf herder"? Thank you ESB!

You're talking about stuff I clearly recall getting laughs back in 1977.

As for carpets, we don't see bathrooms in any of the movies either, but surely they must exist? ;)

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miker71 said:

Leia's "walking carpet" line has always bugged me, do we even see a carpet anywhere in the trilogy? It's an instant back-to-Earth-ism for me that line. And it's not even funny...

 

That part of it has never bothered me, while I am not sure if we ever see a carpet in the trilogy (Ben's hut? Yoda's hut? Jabba's palace? Owen and Beru's? Bespin, perhaps. Those are the only potential places for them I can think of. It isn't like the films spend any time in the dwellings of the average citizen of the Galactic Empire, which would be the sort of setting one might expect to see a carpet), it isn't like the camera spends much time looking at the floor either. They've developed technology way beyond ours, I am sure someone would have gotten tired of walking around barefoot on cold floor and invented a rug at one point or another. I don't really see that as a back-to-Earth-ism.

When I was a kid, I did think that line, along with "Laugh it up, Fuzzball" was pretty funny. But as I got older it began to bother me because it seemed out of place for Leia. SW Leia was royalty and a stuck up, selfish, spoiled snob. In that context the line fit. However, trilogy Leia evolved into something much more than that, and it makes her seemingly racist comment seem out of place for her character. Referring to him as a "walking carpet" and not addressing him directly when he clearly understands basic suggests she thinks of Wookies as lessers to humans (not to mention, she didn't give the poor guy a medal).

I guess we could chalk the whole thing up to her just having a really bad day and being in a bit of an irritable mean mood in the first film. She did just watch her planet get blown up, lost her family, and-- What the hell!? We went through three freaking crappy prequel films and we never got to see Alderran? What a missed opportunity to add some extra emotion to that scene! Six movies, hours spent on the same lame backwater desert planet, and we never even get a glimpse of Alderran? Sorry, just now realizing that. Where was I? Oh yeah, I guess we can forgive Leia's out of character racial slam on Wookies since she had just gone through so much. Humorously, I've always thought that line a better candidate for removal than Han's BAMF shooting first moment.

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I think when we begin discussing the existence of carpets in the Star Wars galaxy, we're scrapping the bottom of the discussion barrel ;)

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There's a stuffed wampa-rug carpet thing on the floor in the scene in 'Empire' when Han and Leia talk on Cloud City.

It's just out of shot

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greenpenguino said:

There's a stuffed wampa-rug carpet thing on the floor in the scene in 'Empire' when Han and Leia talk on Cloud City.

It's just out of shot

;)

Simply amazing...

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Yep, ROTJ is clearly the best Star Wars movie.

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CP3S said:

Six movies, hours spent on the same lame backwater desert planet, and we never even get a glimpse of Alderran? Sorry, just now realizing that. Where was I? Oh yeah, I guess we can forgive Leia's out of character racial slam on Wookies since she had just gone through so much. Humorously, I've always thought that line a better candidate for removal than Han's BAMF shooting first moment.

We do see Alderran briefly at the end of ROTS.

It's understandable if you've repressed any memories of the prequels. ;)

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There is one good thing about the prequels.

We get to see carpets, therefore justifying Leia's line...

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Car pet, as in a pet in a car.

Yay, I solved the enigma! Which of Jabba's comely lasses do I win?

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Salacious Crumb...

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Crumb isn't comely

Well, to each his/her own I guess...

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<i>or</i> a lass!


How do YOU know! Huh!?

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CP3S said:When I was a kid, I did think that line, along with "Laugh it up, Fuzzball" was pretty funny. But as I got older it began to bother me because it seemed out of place for Leia. SW Leia was royalty and a stuck up, selfish, spoiled snob. In that context the line fit. However, trilogy Leia evolved into something much more than that, and it makes her seemingly racist comment seem out of place for her character.

 Han said 'Laugh it up, fuzzball,' not Leia.  Therefore, this psychoanalysis is as pointless as it is fanboyish.