STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 368

doubleofive said:

 

gurgle1624 said:

I went to a 501st gathering at a Cure for Cancer event and I was asking if any of them had seen the Revisited version and what they thought about it, some said they cant comment but one trooper took off his helmet and inside right next to the right ear peice was a small (and I mean small) sticker that said Revisited, I thought that was great, he didnt say anything but I got the meaning behind it. I dont understand what Lucas problem is (if its him telling the 501st not to comment or if its just certain individuals) but he should take it as a huge compliment for what Adywan has done to further peoples interest or rekindle interest in the Star Wars brand.

We've heard before they they're not allowed to comment on it, I've always found that interesting. Someone high up has seen it and knows enough about it to brand it as subversive. I'm pretty sure they're forbidden to help us, which will make expanding the battle in RotJ much more difficult.

 

As a member of the 501st, I've never heard anything like this.

I am so glad someone is willing to debunk conspiracy theories.

Erikstormtrooper said:

doubleofive said:

gurgle1624 said:
I went to a 501st gathering at a Cure for Cancer event and I was asking if any of them had seen the Revisited version and what they thought about it, some said they cant comment but one trooper took off his helmet and inside right next to the right ear peice was a small (and I mean small) sticker that said Revisited, I thought that was great, he didnt say anything but I got the meaning behind it. I dont understand what Lucas problem is (if its him telling the 501st not to comment or if its just certain individuals) but he should take it as a huge compliment for what Adywan has done to further peoples interest or rekindle interest in the Star Wars brand.

We've heard before they they're not allowed to comment on it, I've always found that interesting. Someone high up has seen it and knows enough about it to brand it as subversive. I'm pretty sure they're forbidden to help us, which will make expanding the battle in RotJ much more difficult.

As a member of the 501st, I've never heard anything like this.

Rogue Leader says:

"It was told through the grape vine from the COs of the local garrisons here. My intel is there for second hand from members with in the group. HOWEVER, the COs also said that people can do what ever they want as long as they are not promoting themselves as acting on behalf of the 501st."

^Good! Nice to see that they have that 'willing to help' standpoint. Some groups might get huffy or downright militant about stuff like that. :p

Yeah, they could get militant and blast us with their blasted blasters :-D

OK I've got about 25 things that I've spotted when watching this thing that I think can still be fixed. some are big (Luke yelling "Carrie!" when he gets out of his X-Wing) and others are not, but there is stuff you missed, Adywan.  For the most part this is the best version of this film I've ever seen, and that's why these things still stick out to me.  If any of this is mentioned in this thread then I apologize, but 368 pages is a lot to read before posting.

Why does 3POs chest have restraining bolt marks on it while on the Tantive IV?  Those marks on his chest and the dripping corrosion below them should be removed until after the Jawas get to him.  But later in Mos Eisley the marks are gone when they should be there.

When Luke and family are eating and addressing the issue of R2, Luke says "I thought he might've meant old Ben".  In the middle of this line the shot cuts from Owen to Luke, and at this edit there's a break in the dialogue that sounds like two takes spliced together, or a split second missing from the audio.  

Why are 3POs eyes not lit when his arm is missing?  Is this on purpose?

The little comedy moments added to the SE at the beginning of the Mos Eisley scene (the probe droid getting hit by the landspeeder and the Jawa falling off the Ronto) really shouldn't have been removed.  If the fims were meant to be that dry then the mouse droid scene on the Death Star should have been cut as well.

The bartender's lip sync could be fixed when he says "we don't serve their kind here.  Your droids.  They'll have to wait outside".  

And I honestly think someone somewhere should do something about Leia's British accent when she meets Tarkin.  What's all that about?  

The line "You mean it controls your actions?" when Luke is practicing with his lightsaber is recorded very badly.  Compared with all the other dialogue it sounds very dull.  Isn't this line in the radio drama?  If so it could be lifted from that and used to replace the one in the film.  Kind of retro looping

And for Christ's sake, someone needs to make the TIE fighter that they follow to the Death Star move around a bit.  The thing just hangs there in the window of the Falcon.  This has bothered me since I was a little kid.  Wouldn't it dodge, or maneuver in some way?  The thing practically looks like its painted on the window.

Vader's respirator should be re-dubbed so that it goes around his dialogue.  How can he breathe and talk at the same time?  This is particularly noticeable in the scene where he senses Obi-Wan in the newly captured Falcon.  Also, when he walks away, his breathing sound moves to the left as he walks out of the frame, but it gets louder after he's offscreen, rather than recede as he does.

When Leia shoots a hole in the Death Star corridor to escape, she then tells Han "Into the garbage chute, flyboy".  How did she know what it was?  She didn't even look at the hole, and even if she did there was too much smoke obscuring the contents.

Once they are in the trash compactor, why doesn't anyone investigate to see where the people they were just shooting so fervently at go?  Maybe adding a shot and a line from a stormtrooper telling someone to activate the compactor would fix this continuity error.

Luke tells Han "Will you forget it! I already tried that.  Its magnetically sealed" when Han shoots the compactor door.  When did he find the time to do that?  There was about 4 seconds between when Luke jumped in and when Han did.  Do you mean to tell me that he recovered from the landing, figured out where they were AND took a shot at the door in 4 seconds?

The Dianoga sure makes a lot of interesting dinosaur type noises, considering that its underwater the whole time.

I love the new enhancement on the tractor beam matte shot.  It no longer looks like a big painting on the bottom half of the shot.  But why are all the wall lights green?  They're not that way in any of the corridors.  It really throws me when they're green in only that one place in the whole Death Star.

Just a little continuity question here.  How long was Leia being held on the Death Star?  At least a few days, and probably longer if the original story premise of Luke seeing the Tantive IV battle through his macros in the sky of Tatooine is correct.  Did they let this chick bathe?  Maybe offer her a change of clothes?  It seems funny that she keeps her white gown on the whole time.  At least they let her keep her lipstick, which is quite fresh when she comes out of the trash compactor.

Perhaps repositioning the stormtroopers heads as they look toward the imaginary noise thrown by Ben for a little longer might be a good idea.  They turn back to their original positions when he is practically right in front of them and yet don't notice him.  I guess you really can't see a thing in those helmets.

The explosion of the last of the four pursuing TIE fighters after the escape from the Death Star is far too dramatic.  Its better than the Death Star explosion.  This should be redone to be not so huge.

Does anyone know how the Death Star propels itself?  it has no engine ports anywhere, yet it seems to go where they want it to.  Maybe some propulsion exhaust effects somewhere as it pulls up to Yavin?

I love the addition of the Imperial March throughout the movie, especially in the new Death Star reveal shot and when the TIEs appear at Yavin, but there is a big section of the trench battle with no music.  That is where Vader comes into the foray, yet his theme is not there.

When Red Leader says "hold up here and wait for my signal to start your run" there is a long pause between "signal" and "to" that accompanies the change in the shot.  It sounds unnatural and should be clipped a little closer.

as far as "you can now see Red Leader's ship hitting the surface" of the Death Star, uh, where?  I see no such thing

After Luke says "Artoo, that stabilizer's broken loose again.  See if you can't lock it down" there is a shot of the turret guns that has very bad black matte lines around the guns.  

Luke's reaction to Biggs' death was added from the radio drama, but it doesn't have that flangey weird short wave radio sound that all the other rebel communications have.

When Luke switches off his targeting computer the button he presses turns from red to green.  Wouldn't that be on? Maybe reversing the colors of those buttons might help

The Death Star explosion is puny compared to the one of the aforementioned TIE fighter.  Swapping them might help.  The TIE keep on exploding, like something big with a reactor.  In comparison the DS is a little pop.

Luke stills yells "Carrie!" when he first sees her upon his return

well I wouldn't go that far, but its possible to fix a lot of this stuff.

Yeah sorry about the pompousness of that for a first post, but I just watched the thing for the first time, and it was done so well that those mistakes seemed to stick out even more now

Yes, most of what you're complaining about are impossible to fix with the resources available. And some (like "Carrie!") aren't mistakes, but misconceptions (he says "hey", there's no way they would have let that go on set).

And adding a scene where the troopers activate the trash compactor? It's called "drama" and the viewer needs to have things hidden in order for there to be any.

That's quite a first post. :p Most of the stuff you listed isn't mentioned in the thread because there's no need to change them (like the red/green button thing, which would be conforming to our galaxy's stop/go color system. Why bother?), or they can't be done.

}{eywood said:

368 pages is a lot to read before posting.

Don't worry, a lot of it probably isn't important (moreso on the ESB:R thread)

The little comedy moments added to the SE at the beginning of the Mos Eisley scene (the probe droid getting hit by the landspeeder and the Jawa falling off the Ronto) really shouldn't have been removed.  If the fims were meant to be that dry then the mouse droid scene on the Death Star should have been cut as well.

At the same time though, if the films were meant to be that silly, then some equivalent scene would have existed prior to the Special Edition. The little droid and the ronto were 1997 additions which Ady (and frankly, most of us) found to be ridiculous and overly silly. Chewie's scene with the mouse droid is in keeping with his character, but do we really need extra silly stuff in the background?

And I honestly think someone somewhere should do something about Leia's British accent when she meets Tarkin.  What's all that about?  

It's the formal accent of a Senator working in her official capacity, talking to an officer. Compare with the Padme/Amidala voice changes, as much as I hate to bring the Prequels into this.

And for Christ's sake, someone needs to make the TIE fighter that they follow to the Death Star move around a bit.  The thing just hangs there in the window of the Falcon.  This has bothered me since I was a little kid.  Wouldn't it dodge, or maneuver in some way?  The thing practically looks like its painted on the window.

I always figured it was moving in a fairly straight and thus quick line towards the Death Star. The Falcon's not shooting yet, so why dodge?

The Dianoga sure makes a lot of interesting dinosaur type noises, considering that its underwater the whole time.

I always took the biggest of its noises to be some sort of door closing, down below, prior to compression.

The explosion of the last of the four pursuing TIE fighters after the escape from the Death Star is far too dramatic.  Its better than the Death Star explosion.  This should be redone to be not so huge.

Yeah, that thing is huge. It fits with the movie emotionally though, so I'm going to say the best bet is to really fix the Death Star explosion.

Does anyone know how the Death Star propels itself?  it has no engine ports anywhere, yet it seems to go where they want it to.  Maybe some propulsion exhaust effects somewhere as it pulls up to Yavin?

I always figured it has lots of comparatively small engines that don't show up in distance shots?

I love the addition of the Imperial March throughout the movie, especially in the new Death Star reveal shot and when the TIEs appear at Yavin, but there is a big section of the trench battle with no music.  That is where Vader comes into the foray, yet his theme is not there.

Not every scene should have music - Perhaps the silence fits better.

The Death Star explosion is puny compared to the one of the aforementioned TIE fighter.  Swapping them might help.  The TIE keep on exploding, like something big with a reactor.  In comparison the DS is a little pop.

I'm not a fan of the Stargate-lifted explosion in ANH:R, either. Hoping for a really big, custom-rendered one in A:R:SE ... preferably without any Praxis-ring. (Same goes for ROTJ:R)

Luke stills yells "Carrie!" when he first sees her upon his return

No, he doesn't and he never has. He yells "HEY" or something like that.

The rest of your points are either good or something that I don't know much about. Welcome aboard!

Yeah sorry about that, but I actually searched out and joined this forum just for that reason.  Commenting on torrent sites wouldn't necessarily get back to the guy who did all the work.  I probably should've said "Hi I'm John, and I've been addicted to SW since I was 8" before I went on about the edit, so Hi.  I'm John.  I've been addicted to SW since I was 8.

Sure no one can get Carrie to stop trying to be British, or change her clothes.  I just pointed those things out because they are continuity errors, not seriously to get someone to fix them.  Honestly I think Carrie was hanging around so many British people on set that it just started creeping into her delivery, not on purpose.  this brings Thumb Wars to mind "I have a question.  Why do we all speak in British accents when we're in outer space and there's no Britain?"

I accept that there's no way to fix Luke having the time to shoot the trash compactor door, bur removing his line mentioning it would fix that continuity error.  There is an entire episode of the radio drama in the compactor to crib lines from

Lighting 3POs eyes, removing the restraining bolt welds on his chest, and making the stormtroopers look away from Ben for longer wouldn't be that hard.  Fixing the audio glitches in the lunch scene on Tatooine and in Red Leader's voice would be very easy, as would redubbing Luke's line on the Falcon. Vader's breathing would be a bit harder, but I've removed music from the background of a scene and changed it to new music while retaining the dialogue, so its not impossible.

Swapping the TIE and Death Star explosion I think is almost essential, especially if the shock wave is removed, because the DS pop is totally anti-climactic.  A whole moon and it just pops?  But a TIE fighter explodes for several seconds?  Was this guy smuggling high explosives to Xizor on the sly?  Perhaps there was a crate of cosmic C-4 under the seat.

And I hear "Carrie!" always have and always will

}{eywood said:

Sure no one can get Carrie to stop trying to be British, or change her clothes.  I just pointed those things out because they are continuity errors, not seriously to get someone to fix them.  Honestly I think Carrie was hanging around so many British people on set that it just started creeping into her delivery, not on purpose.  this brings Thumb Wars to mind "I have a question.  Why do we all speak in British accents when we're in outer space and there's no Britain?"

When does she use the accent and when doesn't she? (Note: Brits on the forum have been known to insist it's not British, but posh-American or something like that)

timdiggerm said:

When does she use the accent and when doesn't she? (Note: Brits on the forum have been known to insist it's not British, but posh-American or something like that)

doubleofive said:

 

timdiggerm said:

When does she use the accent and when doesn't she? (Note: Brits on the forum have been known to insist it's not British, but posh-American or something like that)

Whatever it is, its only in the scene with her talking with Tarkin.

 

maybe it is on purpose, but more as her mocking him

Bingowings said:

Luke has plenty of time to attempt to fire at the door (Chewie and Han spend quite a bit of time debating the smells coming from the garbage chute) we don't need to see it.

Merging the radio drama dialogue may be problematic Adywan got away with the Biggs line because it's over load speakers mixing it into conventional conversation with no audible panty-line would be a serious challenge.

No that little bit between Han and Chewie happens before Luke jumps in.  I timed it.  4 seconds between Luke and Han.

As for the radio drama, I could do it easily.  I have very little skills when it comes to video, but I am great with audio.  As a matter of fact there are several lines in the film taken from the radio play, but the Biggs line is the one that stood out to me because it didn't have the swirly short wave sound that the rest of the cockpit transmissions have.  A ring modulator would fix that

}{eywood said:

As for the radio drama, I could do it easily.  I have very little skills when it comes to video, but I am great with audio.

I took the music from the soundtrack album of the piece playing in the background and used it as a noise profile.  Then applied that profile to the movie file.  It removed it.  It left the voices somewhat gated sounding, but when the music was replaced with new music it was fine.  The sound effects I put back in one by one myself.

}{eywood said:

I took the music from the soundtrack album of the piece playing in the background and used it as a noise profile.  Then applied that profile to the movie file.  It removed it.  It left the voices somewhat gated sounding, but when the music was replaced with new music it was fine.  The sound effects I put back in one by one myself.