Anchorhead said:

S_Matt said:

My challenge to those who don't buy Vader being Luke's father is to actually come up with a good argument against it

It's well documented in articles, interviews, web sites, & books that Vader wasn't Luke's father prior to Empire. To suggest otherwise is either revisionism or baiting.

In Lucas' original script (vision), Luke is in his 60s, Annikin is 18, and Darth Vader (first name, last name) is just a military general - not a Jedi, not a Sith. Three wholly separate and unrelated characters.

and you'll have to do better than..."George Lucas never intended".

People are free to dig or not dig the story as it was changed by Lucas in 1980, but to suggest that it was always his intention is incorrect.

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/

http://starwarz.com/starkiller/2010/05/the-origins-of-star-wars-the-evolution-of-a-space-saga/

I agreed with S_Matt about this, not from the point of view of what was or wasn't originally intended but whether it works for the climax of a fantasy story. I added a qualifier:

doubleKO said:

The only thing I can think of to justify that attitude would be if they had access to George's intentions ahead of time (I don't know if that was or wasn't possible with whatever material was available to the public at the time).

*edit* By intentions, I mean to NOT have Vader as Luke's father.

Is this you Anchorhead? Did you know that it was not planned before you saw Empire?

*and THEN back to Jedi dammit! There's an ESB reveal thread for you here S_Matt.